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'Léontine Gervais' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 98-427
most recent 7 APR 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 7 APR 17 by Cà Berta
Catalogue Barbier & Cie 1931
page 214
Léontine Gervais – Gr. capucine mélangé carmin et saumon. Magnifique. Précoce.

in the same Catalogue
page 213
Auguste Gervaise – Gr. jaune cuivré et jaune saumoné. Tr. flor. Belle variété. (Certificat de Bagatelle 1919)
Discussion id : 68-417
most recent 25 NOV 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 NOV 12 by Margaret Furness
Would someone who has suitable photos of Leontine Gervais please check the colour of the stamens. I'm wondering if that's a distinguishing feature between Leontine and Auguste Gervais.
Discussion id : 46-320
most recent 3 JUL 10 SHOW ALL
Initial post 30 JUN 10 by Patricia Routley

I have had a search of the literature and the references are confirming that size of the bloom is a way to distinguish these two roses. - Patricia

Leontine Gervais
1911 “small in size”
1936 5cm
1967 “two inches”

Auguste Gervais
1919 “four to five inches”
1936 10-12 cm.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 3 JUL 10 by HMF Admin
Wonderful research !
Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 JUL 10 by jedmar
The confusion seems to have been a very early one: The references of 1913 and 1933 speak of large flowers for Léontine Gervais. All LG I have seen nowadays have large flowers, so they must be Auguste Gervais. But where is the original LG?
Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 JUL 10 by Margaret Furness
I saw two different roses labelled Leontine Gervais in New Zealand. The attached photo shows one with more petals and a button eye. Does anyone recognise it?
Discussion id : 44-850
most recent 18 MAY 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 MAY 10 by Patricia Routley
What I have as “Brownlow Hill Rambler”, and which came to me named as that, and also as ‘Leontine Gervaise’ from a different source, has a flower of about 8cm, from memory (autumn here, no flowers). ‘Mme. Alice Garner’s’ references say that has a small flower, and Charles Quest Ritson pins it down to 3-4cm.

The bloom is from the rose that came as “Brownlow Hill”, and the hips are from the (same) rose that came as ‘Leontine Jervais’. The hip rose is in good soil and the hips are bigger than the bloom rose which is in shade and has root competition from a Sequoia. Does ‘Leontine Gervais’ have hips as big as this in other people’s gardens?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 18 MAY 10 by Margaret Furness
I got confused between Auguste Gervais and Leontine Gervais in New Zealand; photos attached. The first was labelled Auguste Gervais, the second and third were labelled Leontine Gervais in different gardens. 4-6 are my plant (of whichever), which came mislabelled as May Queen. It grows 6m canes in a season (up or downhill), and is fertile as pollen parent and seed parent. Much smaller (and redder) hips than yours but it wasn't watered this summer. Quite good autumn leaf colour.
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