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Recent Questions, Answers and Comments
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1 MAR 23 by
 Margaret Furness
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The current owners tell me their family have grown it since 1942. The flowers are 3-5cm in diameter. They don't think it's scented, which argues against Lady Gay as an ID.
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#1 of 7 posted
2 MAR 23 by
Patricia Routley
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Some people can smell roses. Others (like me) can’t.
There are two ‘Lady Gay’ roses listed in HelpMeFind.
Lady Gay (hybrid wichurana, Walsh, 1903) (Rosa wichuraiana Crép. synonym × Bardou Job)
Lady Gay (hybrid multiflora, Geschwind, 1905) (seedling of Crimson Rambler × Unknown)
Walsh’s rose is likely to be fragrant, because ‘Bardou Job’ was fragrant.
Geschwind’s rose is likely to not be fragrant, because Turner’s ‘Crimson Rambler’ wasn’t.
Despite Geschwind’s rose being classified as multiflora, (as is ‘Turner’s ‘Crimson Rambler’)
if the pollen parent of Geschwind’s rose was R. wichurana, the resulting offspring might look a wich as does
‘Evangeline’ and ‘Excelsa’. I wish we knew more about Geschwind’s ‘Lady Gay’.
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#2 of 7 posted
6 MAR 23 by
Palustris
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Yes, it is true: we do not all detect fragrance in the same way. I can't detect China rose scent, but can detect the scent of most OGRs with a "damask" scent. I don't remember scent on 'Lady Gay', but it won't flower for another four months for me so can't check. I lost my own LG but know a big hedge of it an hour away. The Walsh roses that have scent that carries in the air are 'Evangeline' and 'Nokomis'.
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#3 of 7 posted
27 MAR 23 by
Patricia Routley
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Margaret, I feel sure you have said somewhere (?private email) that “Loveday” is prickly.
Johno has sent me a 1969 Sedunarys Upper Murray Nursery catalogue. This nursery was at Loveday S.A. They listed ‘Pinkie Climbing’ which apparently is thornless.
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#4 of 7 posted
27 MAR 23 by
Margaret Furness
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Yes wich-prickly: and once-flowering, so it's not Cl Pinkie.
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#5 of 7 posted
27 MAR 23 by
Patricia Routley
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#6 of 7 posted
today by
Margaret Furness
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Palustris, would you please check whether Lady Gay is scented, if you can visit the hedge next month.
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#7 of 7 posted
today by
Palustris
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It will be about six weeks before Lady Gay flowers here. I'm looking forward to the ramblers blooming.
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Initial post
today by
Owen M Cassels
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Available from - Heirloom Roses
https://heirloomroses.com/products/maurice-lepeletier
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Initial post
yesterday by
MottisfontNT
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Rose Listing Omission
Rosa 'Dean Hill'
Rosa 'Dean Hill' named after Dean Hill barn in 1985 where first found. It is a synonym of Rosa 'Mrs Yamada' as they both were sports off Rosa 'Varigata Di Bologna'. 'Dean Hill' is found at National Trust Mottisfont.
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#1 of 2 posted
yesterday by
jedmar
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They are both sports, but are they identical?
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#2 of 2 posted
today by
Margaret Furness
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There was also David Ruston's find, Purpurea di Bologna. Are they all reversions to Victor Emmanuel?
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Initial post
yesterday by
AllieSmokey
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I have a photo of the original Spirit of 76 rose I took last year. This rose bush was planted around in 1977. I took it with the old flip phone. I understand you do not have a photo of it on your website.
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