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Discussion id : 97-785
most recent 2 MAR 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 2 MAR 17 by perpetua
Hello!Could anyone tell me what happens if you prune a once-flowering climber in March?The thing is,I really didn't have the time to finish pruning it last autumn,and now about a third of it is unpruned.It looks quite weird and I'd like to finish trimming it now.I have very long canes that stick out and I want to shorten them so that they match the ones I pruned last autumn,strictly to contain the rose.My second question is about my bush roses(hybrid teas mostly,but also comte de chambord,jaques cartier,yolande d'aragon,rose de rescht,indigo).They are all fairly young,up to four years,and last year I pruned my Portlands for the first time,very lightly.It did not go well:rose de rescht was a mess and the others couldn't support all the flowers they had(not that there were that many,just a goodish regular amount),so I had to tie them to support them(the ones that were left unbroken by heavy winds and rains,that is).The canes were very fragile.My H.Teas also got a light pruning,much to my aunt's displeasure(she's all for hard pruning).They suffered the same fate.After the first massive flush,I decided to take action:I deadheaded/pruned very drastically,up to 50% of the plant.Turned out to be a good decision:I had rebloom quicker than the previous year,so the roses seemed to have liked being deadheaded severely.This year I'm going for the hard pruning direct,but I've just skimmed through the pruning section and everybody seems to be against it.I have also gathered that hard pruning will delay flowering,so it's the complete opposite of hard deadheading.I have noticed that lightly pruned plants become "dead" below the point where they are pruned,the wood has no leaves,definitely no buds.My roses had buds way lower last year in spring,but I went for the light pruning.This year they have buds way higher than last year and a good portion of the canes remains without any sign of life.What frightens me is this:if I continue to prune lightly,will my roses end up being half "dead wood" after a few years,with buds sprouting higher and higher?I should perhaps mention that I do not prune my roses at all in late autumn.Sorry I couldn't be more concise in framing my questions,thank you in advance for taking the time to wade through my post! ps-Does anyone here prune Noisette climbers(Lamarque,to be more precise)hard in the spring?
Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 MAR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
Salutari de la Anglia!
Ce mai faci? If you prune a once flowering climber now you risk cutting off a lot of the shoots that will flower this year, i.e. the new growth that it made last year. These types of roses are best pruned directly after they flower. Portland roses and roses like 'Rose de Rescht' are best pruned after they have had their first flush of flower. Dead-head them, then cut out any old and twiggy shoots. In the autumn and long shoots can have a third pruned off them, or better still peg them down 30cm horizontal to the ground. I do not have any experience of noisette climbers so maybe other members can give you the information. In your climate I think it will be better to prune in summer and at the end of winter rather than in autumn. Imi place foarte mult pozele de trandafir 'Mysterieuse'.
Ciao, Andrew.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 MAR 17 by perpetua
thank you!
Discussion id : 68-783
most recent 15 DEC 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 DEC 12 by Euglena
I am brand new to growing roses and have a major question: I have two climbing roses that I have neglected for years and mis-pruned. They are both basically a 7' high, naked trunk, 1 inch in diameter with a one "cane" at the top, with several branches coming haphazardly from the top. I want to begin transforming them into two productive climbers. They are still blooming in this coldish Virginia late fall. Does it make sense to cut them down to 2 or 3 feet so they will sprout canes from the base of the plants that I can then work with or should I bend the trunk over and leave them as is and hope that if I prune with more skill more canes will grow from the bent over trunk? One is a Don Juan and the other a beautiful yellow rose of unknown name. I would love help. Thanks in advance.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 15 DEC 12 by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi, do you experience severe freezes where you are? If you do, don't prune them now for fear of inducing softer growth which could well freeze. If you want to prune them lower, I'd think it would be better to wait until the last chance of really hard frost in your climate. When you do prune them, I wouldn't take those seven foot, one inch thick canes down more than about a third. That's kind of thick to try forcing into new basal growth all at once. Hopefully, reducing them a third, maybe two to two and a half feet in height, will help stimulate them into producing new growth, lower down. From there, you should be able to begin training the newer growth, lower to cover whatever area you desire. Hope it helps.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 15 DEC 12 by Euglena
Thanks, Kim. I am in northern Virginia, 7b. Given the wild swings in weather these days, I will wait until danger of hard frost is gone.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 DEC 12 by Rupert, Kim L.
You're welcome! At least there is nothing (other than time) to be lost by waiting until more favorable weather. Happy Holidays!
Discussion id : 26-597
most recent 26 MAY 08 SHOW ALL
Initial post 21 MAY 08 by PETER RUSANOV
Reply #1 of 3 posted 21 MAY 08 by jedmar
It depends on what type of rose it is. If it is a more modern floribunda or hybrid tea (post 1950), you can prune in spring quite drastically, cutting the canes down to 2-3 eyes. The rose will then grow even stronger. If it an old garden rose or climber, it might be better not to prune at all, but just remove dead wood and give some shape. If you tell us what roses you have, I am sure you will receive more exact information from HMF members.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 21 MAY 08 by PETER RUSANOV
I dont know how to pase a photo of the plant so you can tell me what kind it is
Reply #3 of 3 posted 26 MAY 08 by Wendy C.
Peter where do you live? The colder the climate, the less you take off.

If your roses are currently growing this is what I would do. Prune out all of the dead and twiggy growth. Prune the main canes to the first set of leaves growing away from the center of the bush.

Do a less is more for now until you know what you are growing. And feed them.
Discussion id : 17-982
most recent 7 NOV 09 SHOW ALL
Initial post 13 APR 07 by Paul Wright
I recently bought a minature rose bush from a local garden centre and i was wondering when should i prune this rose bush and when i do prune it where abouts should i prune it on the stem?
Reply #1 of 2 posted 26 OCT 09 by Yvonne
Do I prune peonys? Yvonne
Reply #2 of 2 posted 7 NOV 09 by jedmar
Not like roses. If your peony is the shrub-type with woody stems, then you cut off the foliage before winter. With the herbaceous types, you can cut off stems and foliage before winter, or, if they have fungus, in autumn. It is usually better to do this as late as possible, to give the plant a chance to pull back nutrients into the roots.

Of course, dead stems and awkward-growing canes can be pruned late in the year.
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