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Initial post yesterday by Patricia Routley
Can anybody confirm the seed parent of ‘Veterans’ Honour’ 1997. Is there a Patent? Was it
‘Showstopper’ 1981 or
‘Salsa’ 1988 (Showstopper x seedling)
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Initial post yesterday by Julie Matlin
Hi Kim,

Great article!

Quick question: have you ever had an example of a grafted rootstock growing from a rose that had turned completely white and hasn't affected the rose that's grafted to it?

We were asked to evaluate a bush that had this particular anomaly. In all our years of growing roses, we have never seen this happen before. At this time, we are still unsure of what hybrid tea variety the rose is. However, we do know that this has been an ongoing issue with this specific bush for a period of about five years. Because we've done some DNA studies on roses, we know about rose mutation and rootstock diseases; but we're a bit surprised that the hybrid tea emanating from this rootstock is completely healthy. Any help you can give would be much appreciated!

Sherry Berglund and Julie Matlin
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Initial post 27 JUL by eihblin
In the HMF description of this rose, I see that they say "Feed this rose well". This rather confuses me: it's a Found Rose, after all, which gives the idea that it does fine with little fuss. Am I misssing something? Can anyone throw any light on this question?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by AquaEyes
In general, most Hybrid Perpetuals with heavy Damask Perpetual ancestry (as opposed to those more Bourbon-like, and the later ones with more Tea in them) do need to be "fed well" in order to keep "blooming well", but will "live well" just fine without. From what I've come to learn after growing them, they bloom when "late Spring conditions" -- milder weather, and an influx of water and nutrients -- trigger new growth. A prune after flowering helps as well. In the meantime, they hang in there and survive just fine once established, even if they don't bloom.

:-)
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Initial post yesterday by Michael Garhart
Jalvanica sounds like a code name, so I did some digging, and it seems like a robert Jelly codename of JEL.

This patent by the Hill Co., which sold his creations, also lists JELvanica:

patents.google.com/patent/USPP5635P/en

In an Israeli data sheet, both JELvanica and the rose bred from it are listed next to Jelly and Meilland roses, so there is likely some association, but no concrete proof, other than they list no parents for JELvanica, except that was released the same year as 'Parfait', JELcondir, and JELrandoli, which was 1977. They state their source as ILARO, but I don't know what that stands for. Another Israeli publication from the govt. states ILARO is the name of a holder. Maybe that means who owns the rights for release in Israel. I'm not sure, but it seems to relate to the floral industry.

Is Bob Jelly the same as Robert Jelly? Seems likely.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by jedmar
According to the Israeli records ILARO is the abbreviation for "The State of Israel, Ministry of Agriculture & Rural Development, Agricultural Research Organization, (ARO), The Volcani Center" in Beit Dagan, IL being the country abbreviation for Israel.
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