So ALTgolddragon (2013) is of unknown name, and ALTdragon (2025)is Golden Dragon.
The problem is, the patent of ALTdragon uses the same photo as Golden Dragon on the American Rose Trials for Sustainability site, and they call it Golden Dragon. I'd link it but I don't want to test the new system and make this post disappear.
Are they the same rose?
ALTdragon very much has Julia Child plant traits. ALTgolddragon lists Westerland as a pollen parent, and the seed parent is a pink seedling of their making. So maybe they are two different roses? Its very hard to tell whats going on with this and why their company chose to do this confusing naming scheme 12 years apart.
Maybe Julia Child x an inhouse seedling of complex breeding. Glad you like it. Yellow floris can be really off or on for people. No in-between. So maybe this one is hopeful for other climates.
This rose "Charles Mallerin" was named after the rose hybridizer Charles Mallerin (1876-1960). Charles was well known for breeding Hybrid Teas in yellow and yellow blend colors as well as bringing forth some of the first truly dark red Hybrid Teas such as "Sénégal" and "Congo."
Agreed. The Poulsen climber is too recent to have been part of the complex parentage. The ARS registration has a question mark after Flamenco. WE have modified this to McGredy's 1955 floribunda. Thank you for the heads up!
That's the same Flamenco (1950s version) other UK breeders used with Rosa bella, so I assume its correct. They seem to share species hybrids for their work.
