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3 AUG 22 by
 Little Annie
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Hi. Just became a member and I have a question. I grew some roses many years ago and want to start growing them again. I'm very interested in two bourbons and cannot make up my mind as to which one. First, Mme. Earnest Calvat or Boule de Neige. I'm in northeastern Ohio, zone 5b and I want very fragrant roses. I love both roses forms, but, I've read that BdN is not very fragrant, yet, it is disease resistant, where MEC is not. I've done as much reading as I can find on both roses. Can anyone growing BdN give me any information on it's scent and the strength of it? I would sure appreciate it as BdN is a more practical rose for me, but, if it's not very fragrant I will pass it up.
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#1 of 10 posted
5 NOV 22 by
Frenzy
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Boule de Neige ist very fragrant, has strong Bourbon/Centifolia fragrance. Also very disease resistant. It will definitely need winter protection in zone 5b though. If I had to chose between BdN and MEC, I would go with BdN.
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#2 of 10 posted
5 NOV 22 by
Little Annie
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Thank you, Frenzy I appreciate the info. I'm in zone 6a and I've read that BDN is winter hardy to zone 5. What is confusing is different nurseries say different things about it. Angel Gardens says it is slightly fragrant and Peter Beale says strong rose scent. When I made the first post I assumed I was still in zone 5 and later found out it's changed to 6. However, I plan on giving all my new roses winter protection for the first year. BND has a smaller rose, but, the shape is just beautiful as are her buds.
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#3 of 10 posted
12 APR 24 by
princesskatja
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I don’t do any winter protection here in Spokane (my yard is very cold; likely more zone 5 than 6). It usually sails through just fine it’s on the east side of the house.
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#4 of 10 posted
12 APR 24 by
Little Annie
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For my white roses I ended up getting Madame Plantier, an Alba, and am ordering Madame Hardy as soon as one comes available. I am also getting Konigin Von Danemark ( Queen of Denmark), also and Alba because of their disease resistance and beautiful blooms and fragrance. I planted Madame Plantier late last summer and I worried about it dying over the winter, but, it's leafing out beautifully and looking very healthy, though, small.
Thank you for your reply, princess.
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#5 of 10 posted
12 APR 24 by
Nastarana
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May I ask where did you find KvD?
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#6 of 10 posted
12 APR 24 by
Lee H.
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I got mine from David Austin US, but alas, they are sold out for this season.
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#7 of 10 posted
12 APR 24 by
Little Annie
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Both Heirloom Roses and High Country Roses have Konigin Von Danemark. It's such a beautiful rose I don't care if it only blooms once a year. Both roses are sold out right now, but, will be available soon, so, keep lookiing at these sites or put in a wish for them and they will email you when they are ready.
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#8 of 10 posted
10 days ago by
Gdisaz10
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The scent of boule de neige varies greatly with the temperatures, if it is hot it is very light and barely perceptible, at least to my nose. Its growth is very straight. Madame plantier here is very resistant while madame hardy often gets sick at the end of the season and to my nose it smells little. Konigin Von Danemark is very beautiful in my opinion but it blooms little.
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#10 of 10 posted
today by
Little Annie
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I will be disappointed if KVD blooms little, but, I love the rose and I love how hardy it is against cold. I had to cut my hybrid teas almost down to the ground this year because we had a much colder winter than usual. My bad for not protecting them. I never did get Madame Hardy or Boule de Neige. My Madame Plantier is not bothered by our winters and is doing fantastic. I love the old roses.
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#9 of 10 posted
today by
Little Annie
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I found Konigen Von Danemark at High Country Roses on it's own roots. It sells out quickly, so, I asked for notification by putting my email in on it. It's doing great...we had a wickedly cold winter and it stayed green through it all. No damage. I planted it late, in September, so, when winter hit it was still small. I was afraid it might not make it, but, it had no problems. I'm in zone 6 A.
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today by
a_carl76
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This was an ok-ish yellow rose. Never really did much in my garden though - did not climb, barely bloomed, did not stand out. I kind of put it in a group of generic yellow roses like Sun Flare - nice to have but nothing that will have people talking). Maybe if it had been planted in a new location it would have stood out moor, but I highly doubt it.
After growing it for about 5 years it finally succumbed to winter - still barely a foot tall and with a single pencil thick (if I am being generous) cane. will not grow again unless I hear someone else has a good experience with it.
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today by
a_carl76
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This appears to be the same variety as Yuzen.
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today by
Margaret Furness
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The Lolita sold by Reliable Roses is probably the 1972 Kordes rose, which reached Australia. We haven't found a record of the earlier one reaching Australia.
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today by
jedmar
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Nursery entry deleted, thank you! The Kordes 'Lolita' is no longer in their listing either.
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