'Madame Melon du Thé' rose References
Article (newspaper) (Jun 2011) Page(s) 2. Includes photo(s).
February 23, 2011. [To] Patricia Routley, I am enclosing a flower of a rose that has been in our care since the early 1900s. It originally came from the Nannup area – when my Grandma’s sister gave it to her. My grandma Emma Blackburn was married in Jarrahdale in 1897 and the rose given to her soon after by Annie Scott who lived around Nannup. This rose throughout the years has been kept in the family by cuttings, which seems quite easy to grow according to my husband. We call this rose “Nanny’s Rose” because we remember my mother always having it in her garden and now most of the family has it too. I am almost 85 years old and can remember always having it around. We were hoping you may be able to name this specimen correctly, but we are so used to calling it “Nanny’s Rose” it would be hard to change. Your column in the Karri Pigeon is very interesting to us. Thank you. Emma Douglas, Dwellingup,
February 26, 2011. My dear Emma Douglas,
How wonderful it was to receive your little Lipton tea bag box containing the two blooms and your letter..... I believe your dear little rose is Clotilde Soupert, a 1889 polyantha bred by Soupert and Notting, in Luxembourg. I am reasonably sure because I also have, what we believe is ‘Clotilde Soupert ‘ and I have gone to the books and typed up a fair amount of what is available on the rose. There are some typings and photos attached. The Christian name has been variously spelt - Clothilde, Clotilde, Clothilda, Chlotilde - as different ladies and authors in different countries subtract or add a letter according to their custom. ‘Clothilde Soupert’ was certainly listed by two Victorian nurseries in 1894 and 1897 and a last minute search shows that Hawter’s Nurseries at Mullalyup were listing the rose in their 1909 catalogue. My rose came from South Australia where the only legal way to get it was for my South Australian friend to take budwood to a nursery and get it budded and posted over here. They put it on R. multiflora rootstock and it has struggled here for the past six years. I am enormously pleased to say that I have at last struck a piece from a bit of wood I took on January 5 and it now has roots and leaves and is growing well. I would love to have a couple of cuttings of your rose and if they strike, I could place them right next door to my little ‘Clotilde Soupert’ (there is room) and in a couple of years, we could definitely say they are the same rose. Send them any time when you have spare wood – I have developed a magic method of striking cuttings in plastic drink glasses placed inside a polystyrene foam box with a sheet of glass on the top. Instant hothouse! And because of the clear plastic glasses, as soon as I see the roots, I can pot them up straight away. I love this small co-incidence. You sent the blooms to me in a Lipton tea bag packet, And in 1900 ‘Clotilde Soupert’ was the pollen parent of a hybrid rugosa rose named ‘Sir Thomas Lipton’. In English-speak: Clotilde was the father of a child called ‘Sir Thomas Lipton’. (I can find co-incidences in anything.) Patricia Routley, Northcliffe.
Book (2002) Page(s) 34.
1890. Rated 7.4
Book (2000) Page(s) 169.
‘Clotilde Soupert’ = Polyantha. See reference Botanica's Roses, The Encyclopedia of Roses.
Book (1999) Page(s) 169.
‘Clotilde Soupert’. Modern, polyanthas, white, repeat-flowering. This short growing variety is a forerunner of the modern cluster-flowered and patio roses. It has been in cultivation for a long time and is full of history. As a result, it is still listed in many catalogues. The large, pearly white flowers are very double and have soft rose pink centers. These are carried in fragrant clusters amid soft, rich green foliage that is relatively healthy. Zones 4-9. Soupert and Notting, Luxembourg, 1890. ‘Mignonette’ x ‘Mme. Damaizin’.
Book (1997) Page(s) 90.
Clotilde Soupert. Can suffer from botrytis blight.
Book (Apr 1993) Page(s) 100.
Clotilde Soupert Polyantha, pearly white, center soft rose-pink, 1890, Said to be 'Mignonette' x 'Mme. Damaizin'; Soupert & Notting. Description.
Book (Jun 1992) Page(s) 244. Includes photo(s).
Clotilde Soupert Polyantha. ('Mme Hardy du Thé', Mme Melon du Thé') Soupert & Notting, 1889. Parentage: 'Mignonette' x 'Mme Damaizin'. [Author cites information from different sources.]
Book (Jun 1992) Page(s) 344.
Clotilde Soupert Polyantha. Soupert & Notting 1889
Book (1965) Page(s) 344.
‘Clothilde Soupert (Soupert) 1890. ‘Mignonette’ x ‘Mme. Damaizin’. Its parent ‘Mignonette’ was one of the two seedlings, the first of the polyantha roses, obtained from crossing R. multiflora with Parson’s Dwarf Pink china Rose. It makes a rounded bush 12-15 in. tall and covers itself with tiny double blooms of palest pink.
Book (1954) Page(s) 225.
Clotilde Soupert is said to have been derived from a cross of the blush white Polyantha, Mignonette, and the creamy white, shaded salmon, Tea Rose Mme. Damaizin. The tendency of Clotilde Soupert to produce frequently a red blossom makes such a parentage improbable, as neither Mignonette or Mme. Damaizin had an ancestor of that color. In other respects, the generally accepted parentage is possible, but if the genes for a primary color do not exist in the parents, they are not likely to occur in the progeny, and we must therefore assume that the parentage of Clotilde Soupert is incorrectly recorded.