'Comte de Chambord - in commerce' rose reviews and comments

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'Comte de Chambord - in commerce' rose Reviews & Comments

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Discussion id : 149-057 most recent 4 AUG 23 HIDE POSTS

Initial post 4 AUG 23 by HMF supporting member

Kim W Florida 10b Humid

Available from - Heirloom Roses heirloomroses.com	REPLY

Reply #1 of 1 posted 4 AUG 23 by HMF supporting member

Nastarana

One of the most beautiful of old roses and tends to sell out whenever it is offered. If you want this one, do not delay when it is available.	REPLY

Discussion id : 112-893 most recent 20 SEP 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 3 SEP 18 by bumblekim

After studying the roses at the Mills Rose garden in Syracuse, among other things, I believe this should be a highly recommended rose. 1) The fragrance is perfect, just what you hope and expect a rose to smell. 2) Hardy through severe exposed zone 5 winters. 3) The flowers are so sumptuous, rich, and romantic looking that you would make a perfect display with the flower alone, it needs nothing else. 4) The REPEAT. This is one of the only ones in the OGR section of the garden that has a very reliable repeat. Just like many of the Hybrid teas, there is a big display of blooms in June, and then a smattering through the rest of the summer, then when it cools in September you will have at least 5 branches with clusters of flowers continuing to bud and bloom. The form can be trained on pillar, but is a lovely stand alone shrub with arching branches all around to create that romantic fountain effect.

Reply #1 of 3 posted 2 OCT 19 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Excellent review & and I agree. I have 3 Comte de Chambord for that reason. As own-roots they are compact. What are other old garden roses' scents comparable to Comte? I have Duchess de Rohan and I'm considering buying Sidonie (damask perpertual) from High Country Roses .. I don't know if Sidonie can measure up to Comte in terms of scent. Thanks for any info.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 19 SEP 22 by HMF supporting member

AGBTG

Sidonie has one of the strongest fragrances of old garden roses. It's stronger than Compte de Chambord or Rose de Rescht but of course they're all different. Sidonie isn't as sweet as the others up close but as it "ages" and what carries on the breeze is.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 3 posted 20 SEP 22 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

thank you for the info. about scent.	REPLY

Discussion id : 120-947 most recent 12 FEB 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 14 APR 20 by HMF supporting member

newtie

A dreadful disaster in my gulf coadt zone 8b hot .humid. I have tried to kill mine for years but refuses to die . insists on putting out a naked stick with a bloom on the end once in a while. Do not plant in this climate. The Austin Rose, Gertrude Jekyll , is genetically related can't be told apart same everything including fragrance and vigorous here. Especially on fortuniana root stock.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 2 posted 5 OCT 20 by JuniperAnn

Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 FEB 22 by HMF supporting member

Seaside Rooftop

Is anyone growing this rose successfully in a hot climate? I am in Malta, zone 11 (coastal). I am reading these reviews and thinking I made a mistake by getting Comte. The ratings are not so great for heat tolerance, so I was thinking of putting him in bright shade, but the ratings also say he doesn't do well in shade either. Is this just a rose for cold climates?	REPLY

Discussion id : 120-341 most recent 23 JUN 21 SHOW ALL

Initial post 24 FEB 20 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

Does this rose set hips? It has only one recorded offspring as seed parent. Would those who grow it please compare it with the file on the found rose "Von Doussa Children".	REPLY

Reply #1 of 3 posted 23 JUN 21 by HMF supporting member

thebig-bear

Mine never, ever sets hips. One did try to form last year, but it failed in late summer/early autumn. But whether it would if pollinated by hand?....... I must admit I haven't really tried it, despite all of my other pollinating!	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 23 JUN 21 by HMF supporting member

thebig-bear

I've just looked at "Von Doussa Children" - we grow both Comte de Chambord and Gerturde Jekyll, and I have to say that while I get the fact that people have said it might be Gertrude, my gut feeling is it doesn't feel like it is to me - its not unlike it, but I don't think it is it, personally. One thing about my Gertrude that might help you though - I've just noticed that the lower branches that are more horizontal tend to have a single bloom at the end, where as the more vertical ones in the top 3rd of the plant tend to have 2, 3, or 4 blooms. Maybe that could help you? - or maybe its just that our plant is odd!! I'll tell you one thing, that she certainly responds well to pegging - our old plant has gone from a weedy 6 foot tall by 1 foot wide bean pole with about 3 stems and about a dozen flowers, to after 3 years of pegging becoming a monster thats about 7 x 8 feet and has been covered with flowers this year, its the best I've ever seen it. I'll post a pic on her page.

Reply #3 of 3 posted 23 JUN 21 by HMF supporting member

Margaret Furness

Thank you.
"Von Doussa Children" has produced a few hips. One of our experienced nurserymen has decided that it is Gertrude Jekyll.
Pegging down to the ground is one of the things that depend on where you are. Here, weeds continue to grow all winter, making pegging down intolerable. We're better to espalier. Another option suggested has been to tie weights (eg sandbags) to the ends of branches, and increase the weight gradually, so the branches bow down but aren't on the ground. Your method of tying branches into the bush sounds good too.