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'Deborah ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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12 FEB 18 by
 Michael Garhart
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I'm guessing this one (the bush version of the name) was bred from Bonica. If I had to guess a pollen parent, I would consider Tamango. Less sure of my guess of the pollen parent, though.
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#1 of 2 posted
16 FEB 18 by
Patricia Routley
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I have added the parentage from the 2003 reference.
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#2 of 2 posted
16 FEB 18 by
Michael Garhart
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Awesome.
So it was Centenaire de Lourdes via Anne de Bretagne giving that dominant peduncle and foliage type. Maybe someday we'll find more out about Centenaire de Lourdes.
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31 MAR 17 by
Michael Garhart
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The references says climber. Shrub. 100-110cm (3.5-4' range, which is average flori-shrub range). Very confusing of the breeder!
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#1 of 7 posted
31 MAR 17 by
Andrew from Dolton
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Charles & Brigid Quest-Ritson, R.H.S. Encyclopedia of Roses:
80 centimetres and there is also an acute accent over the E.
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#2 of 7 posted
31 MAR 17 by
Michael Garhart
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Ah, thank you!
Reading down the comments, it seems that the name associated to the climber tag is the name used in Africa. That may explain the size behavior differences (a little, I guess).
Also wondering if there is a bush version and a climbing mutation. The photos seem to be very disparate in plant dimensions. (Or I'm just going crazy, which is possible).
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#3 of 7 posted
31 MAR 17 by
Andrew from Dolton
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Perhaps not so insane. A picture from Aurelija shows at typical floribunda about a metre high whilst a picture from David Elliott shows a substantial climber against a wall.
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#4 of 7 posted
31 MAR 17 by
Michael Garhart
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And the breeder used "it" for both climbers and floribundas. Which makes me ponder a mutation was known and used.
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#5 of 7 posted
31 MAR 17 by
Andrew from Dolton
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You are like a rosarian Sherlock Holmes.
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#6 of 7 posted
31 MAR 17 by
jedmar
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There is another explanation: The breeder code 'Meinoiral' for 'Blossom Magic' as reported by Ludwig's Roses is incorrect. MR XI and the Encylopedia of Rose Science state 'Meimanoir'. We will correct this listing.
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#7 of 7 posted
2 APR 17 by
Michael Garhart
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Woohoo. Mystery solved. Things just weren't adding up.
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25 OCT 12 by
Charles Quest-Ritson
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I think this may be a synonym for MEInoiral.
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#1 of 3 posted
25 OCT 12 by
RoseBlush
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Do you know of a nursery selling 'Meinoiral' as 'Blossom Magic' or do you have a REFERENCE confirming that 'Blossom Magic' is an accepted synonym for 'Meinoiral' ?
Smiles,
Lyn
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#2 of 3 posted
27 OCT 12 by
jedmar
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Lyn, this seems to be the name used in South Africa. I have added a reference.
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#3 of 3 posted
28 OCT 12 by
RoseBlush
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Jemar.......
You are amazing ! Thank you.
Smiles,
Lyn
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