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'Excellenz von Schubert' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 125-188
most recent 23 JAN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 22 JAN by Nadene
Hi,
I have just recently posted two photos of Excellenz von Schubert. It has a growth habit of just over a metre, however it has been pruned heavily in the past. I see in the other HMF photos some references that suggest this lighter pink with less petals, rose has been "sold as" Excellenz von Schubert etc.
I was wondering if it is Excellenze von Schubert or a completely different rose?
Any feed back is greatly appreciated.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 23 JAN by Patricia Routley
Frim your photo, i would guess that your rose is a semi-double. It might be helpful to count the petals on a few individual blooms sometime. Perhaps your rose may not be ‘Excellence von Schubert’ because the earliest reference (1909-93) said the flowers of ‘Excellence von Schubert’ were the size and structure of the carmine pink ‘Gloire des Polyanthas’. That (GdP) was a double flower.

It is more likely that your rose, and probably most in Australia, may be ‘Gartendirektor Otto Linne’ but we really need more information on this rose. HelpMeFind at the moment are listing it as double. The 1936 Hazlewood reference is of interest - did they import something else?
Look closely at the foliage. ‘Gartendirektor Otto Linne’s offspring, bred by Riethmuller: ‘Carabella’ and ‘Honeyflow’ and ‘Gay Vista’ have the same leaves as shown in Eric Timewells photo of the ‘GOL’ plant from Trewallyn Nursery.

A little more on others in Australia. Please see my photo captioned
“ROSE SOLD IN AUSTRALIA AS 'Excellenz von Schubert' accompanying an article written by Merv Trimper in the May, 2001 'Your Garden' magazine. The semi-double rose pictured, may (or may not be) 'Gartendirektor Otto Linne'. It does not appear to be the double 'Excellenz von Schubert' as grown in America.”

I received a cutting from a friend of Merv Trimper’s rose in 2013. This was planted at Ult-half-N-67 and is the same as the photo, mentioned above, with lots of white streaks. I have wondered if it is infected with petal fleck disease. However, as I believe petal fleck is only transmitted by cuttings, I have never worried about it in my garden, just never shared it around. . (To play it safe however I have never deadheaded it and, Margaret Furness, you asked once about hips and this plant is setting hips.) Margaret Furness’ photo of Thomas for Roses ‘Excellence von Schubert, appears to be the same rose.

This bush and bloom is exactly the same as the one which came as Excellence von Schubert’ from Ken McAlpine-1; Wal Johnson-2; (without the white fleck) in the same 2013 year and planted at Ult-half-S-57.

So, two identical semi-double roses planted with three metres of each other, both named ‘Excellence von Schubert’ No. 67 with white streaks, and No 57 without. There is some repeat on both bushes.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 23 JAN by Nadene
Thanks Patricia,

I will be revisiting the gardens as soon as it cools down to have a closer look and take more photos. This particular section was replanted after the 2004 garden revamp due to a soil pathogen issue. It is possible another rose was planted and the records not changed or that the rose delivered was incorrect.

It was your post about 'Gartendirektor Otto Linne' that caught my attention about this rose. I will look into the other roses you mentioned and the Trewallyn Nurseryas well.
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Discussion id : 123-793
most recent 7 NOV HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 7 NOV by Viviane SCHUSSELE
Franz Schubert 1797- 1828 compositeur autrichien
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Discussion id : 45-879
most recent 28 JUN 19 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 15 JUN 10 by Carlene
Does anyone know if this rose would do well in a large pot? Thanks.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 4 FEB 14 by VictoriaRosa
Unless you live in cold climate, I think this is way too large and vigorous for a pot. But I could be wrong -- with proper pruning, and a REALLY big pot, it could work.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 28 JUN 19 by kgs
I have EVS planted in a really big pot since ca. February, and it's doing great. By big, I mean ca. 18" in diameter. There is an EVS across the street trained over an arch and it's huge, but this one is happy enough and the pot buys me time for a year or two while I figure out the backyard.
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Discussion id : 70-907
most recent 6 APR 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 APR 13 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I found a post in Gardenweb by someone who grows 4 of these in partial shade. She stated that it has a great scent, almost thornless. Rogue Valley Roses listed it hardy to zone 4. I got mine from Burlington Roses, my own-root is almost thornless, the flowers have a fabulous scent, with excellent repeat.
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