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'Mrs. Wemyss Quin' rose References
Book (Apr 1993) Page(s) 401. Mrs. Wemyss Quin Hybrid Tea, deep yellow, 1914, Dickson, A. Description.
Book (1986) Page(s) 98. Includes photo(s). Mrs. Wemyss Quin (1914) One of the earliest yellow tea roses. The double flowers are a deep yellow with orange shaded outer petals when fresh. The flowers are fragrant and high-pointed in the bud.
Website/Catalog (1985) Page(s) 34. Mrs. Wemyss Quin* (Hybrid Tea). Deep yellow with outer petals touched with bronzy-orange. Branching habit. 1924. (C) 2 x 2’.
Book (1980) Page(s) 64. Includes photo(s). Plate VII. Pernetiana Roses. These were the first bright yellow cultivated roses. They were named after the French nurserymen Joseph Pernet, who originated them by crossing Hybrid Perpetuals and others with the Persian yellow, R. foetida persiana. 'Soleil d'Or' (bottom) was the first to be put on the market in 1900, to be followed by 'Rayon d'Or' in 1910. These early ones were not, however, very robust, and it was not until Dickson introduced Mrs Wemyss Quinn (centre left) in 1914 that any of the Hybrid Teas among them could be called strong growers. 'Lawrence Johnston' (top) is a climbing member of the family, and 'Reveil Dijonnais' (centre right) a comparatively modern shrub rose or semi-climber.
Book (1978) Page(s) 82. Mrs. Wemyss Quin The future of yellow roses had now passed from Pernet-Ducher's exclusive control, as his varieties had reached other breeders. The almost metallic golden colour of the yellow Pernetianas was preserved by 'Mrs Wemyss Quinn', 'Golden Emblem', 'Christine', 'Mabel Morse', 'Marcelle Gret', and 'Spek's Yellow' (or 'Golden Sceptre' in the United States). It appeared in other varieties of a transient nature, but please note that the latest introduction I have mentioned is in 1947. Has the pure metallic gold been impossible to divorce from the blackspot and poor growth? Have breeders been like Canutes, failing to stop waves of red and pink sweeping into their yellow sand? I expect I shall have yellow roses pointed out to me, perhaps 'Peer Gynt' or 'King's Ransom' or 'Gold Crown' or 'Summer Sunshine', and told 'There they are! Open your eyes Jack.' But does anyone really think that the raiser of 'Rayon d'Or' would see in any of those the pure golden Rose of his imagining? It is my contention that in this respect, the high water mark was 'Mrs. Wemyss Quin'. And it was introduced by Alexander Dickson in 1914. The alert French gave it a Gold Medal at Bagatelle in 1916. A prickly rose, blessed (or cursed?) with big spines, strong growth, grassy green leaves and stems, flowers as yellow as a golden guinea. The guard petals (the outer ring of five, in other words) had the usual red splash. It was tough and long lived, unlike many yellow roses; or to put it another way, it was hardy, withstanding the winters. The parentage is unknown, for in 1921 Dicksons had a fire in their office and lost their records.
Book (1974) p51. The colour breakthrough had been achieved; the flower shape was right but Rayon d'Or also suffered from the old failing of dieback. The plant failed to survive hard winters. It was hardly in the gardens before it was out of commerce....Nevertheless the break and been made, the purest yellow rose yet. it was probable that rosarians didn't believe now that a yellow rose could be produced that was winter-hardy. That seems to be one of the only reasons they didn't accept Mrs Wemyss Quin when it arrived on the market. Yet it was winter-proof and Dicksons of Northern Ireland, who produced it said so. But in England they were still the sceptics - there was little recognition and no awards here for Mrs Wemyss Quin. Except in France where, with a touch of Gallic foresight, they recognised the rose for what it was and awarded it the Bagatelle Gold Medal in 1916.
p129. The pedigree of Shot Silk should go back further than Mrs Wemyss Quin, but it was on the introduction of this yellow rose that many of the Dicksons plans were laid. They were laid here simply because the family felt that this yellow rose was the first hardy specimen of the colour on the market. They were not backed up, however, by the rose-buying public and the rose was forgotten. But as a breeding base it was certainly very useful for the Dicksons and four generations later came a batch of multicoloured seedlings.
Book (1945) Page(s) 58. Frank Penn, Auckland, N.Z. Perfume in roses Then there is a fruit scent, leaning towards the sweetbrier. This is found in such sorts as Juliet, Mabel Lynas, Mrs Wemyss Quin and Lord Lambourne.
Book (1941) Page(s) 119. G. M. Taylor Neglected Garden Foses. Some of my older readers will remember the advent of that fine Rose Mrs Wemyss Quin. When it was put up in London for the Gold Medal award, it was passed as unworthy of that honour. At the trials at Bagatelle, however, it obtained the Gold Medal award, and rightly so as it was, undoubtedly, the greatest advance in yellow roses of its day. I shall never forget the day of its debut in London. I was one of the judges and I think the only one who proposed the higher award. It was my first appearance in that august assembly and I felt a bit strange, and was somewhat overawed by the strong clerical element present. I still remember the astonishment of two very reverend and esteemed gentlemen when I gave my honest opinion on the Rose. I think the Scottish accent somewhat upset them, and I received a very ecclesiastical lecture on my shortcomings as an assessor of the merits of new roses. I was asked if I had ever heard of or seen a rose named Rayon d.Or. Yes, I said. Well, the reply was, we do not want a rose like this when we have such an excellent and superior one in Rayon d'Or. I stuck to my guns, however, and told them that Mrs Wemyss Quinn would be a popular Rose long after Rayon d'Or had disappeared forever...... Let me revert again to Mrs Wemyss Quin. That is a rose which certainly comes within the purport of this article and the quotation from Foster Melliar. Although it was raised over a quarter of a century ago, can it be bettered as a shrub of long-flowering capability, and especially as a shrub with yellow flowers. Plant Mrs Wemyss Quin and leave her alone beyond thinning out that will necessarily be required from time to time, and what other yellow rose of recent introduction will rival it in constitution and hardiness? It was the first of its own particular type and ancestry, and it would have been better for the rose world in general had we never seen Rayon d'Or. The progeny of that variety has left us a legacy that it's anything but desirable. It may seem harsh to write thus of that remarkable variety, but experience - and the history of the rose since the advent of Rayon d'Or - leaves no alternative.
Book (1939) Page(s) 85. John Poulsen, Christchurch N.Z. The Rose as a Shrub. Among yellow roses there are a number that gives splendid results when allowed to grow into large bushes.... Mrs Wemyss Quin, which was one of the first of the golden yellow roses to be introduced, has never become very popular, for the simple reason that it, too, resents the hard pruning to which it is often subjected. Left almost entirely alone, it will make a fine large bush, with good, healthy, glossy green foliage..... In red, Hugh Dickson can make a splendid large bush. Mr W. H. Joyce of Rolleston Street, has a large bush of it in his garden, and he has one of Mrs Wemyss Quinn nearly as large.
Website/Catalog (1938) Page(s) 35. Bush Roses Mrs. Wemyss Quin (Pernetiana). By Dicksons of Hawlmark, 1914... Lemon chrome. Full, vigorous, hardy and free. Far the most reliable yellow; will grow where many of its colour fail. A really good Rose. Highly recommended. Highly perfumed. Gold Medal, Paris.
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