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'Général Jacqueminot' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 109-136
most recent 9 MAR 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 MAR 18 by CybeRose
Gardener's Monthly and Horticulturist volume 22, no. 264, page 362 (Dec 1880)
There has been much difficulty experienced by the growers in raising Hybrid roses for the cut flower market; and thus far with the single exception of Gen. Jacqueminot, all efforts have been almost a total failure.

Paul Neron is grown to a limited extent, and could it be put on the market at a reasonable figure would probably be one of the favorites, as its large size, noble form, and peculiar soft rosy red color make it very attractive. A rose, however, that in February can hardly be sold under two dollars each, retail, will scarcely find more than a limited number of purchasers.

There are other hybrids that can be forced with more or less ease, but there is always something defective in the flower, either that it does not form a good bud, or that its color is wrong r undecided, or some such cause.

Gen. Jacqueminot, however, to those that have been lucky in raising it, has been a little "mine," so to speak, and has probably been the best paying of all the fancy roses.

Professionally speaking, "Jack" rose is not in the market much before February, although a few may be had as early as December. These are aptly called "bastards," being poor, miserable, scrubby little things. Poor as they are, however, they are worth about forty dollars per hundred then.

Although this price seems enormous for such a poor article, one grower who had one house especially for December forcing, assured me that the season before he had lost twenty cents on every bud he sold, and he having a superior stock received fifty dollars a hundred for them. He continued forcing early because it gave him a lead in the market, and enabled him to command a higher price for his other goods.

A single crop of Jacks lasts about two weeks and a house will yield a couple of crops, one in February and a second in April.

The fluctuation in the price of Jacks is startling and terrifying to the oldest hand. I have known a rise or a fall of twenty dollars a hundred in a single day. Last season the average scale of prices in Philadelphia was about as follows to May 1st:--

Feb. 1st half, per hundred, $60
2nd half " " 45
March 1st week, " 35
2nd " 30
3d " 20
4th " 35
April 1st "15
2nd " 12
3d " 20
4th " 25

During this time, of course, there were many violent changes—the highest figure that was reached in that time was sixty-five dollars, and lowest six dollars per hundred.

The average retail price was fifty cents a bud, although they have sold as high as a dollar, each.

A "Jack" bouquet is worth from fifteen to thirty dollars. It is used alone, or in combination with Niel, Cook, or Lily of the Valley.

A bouquet, the centre formed of Niels, or one of one side Niels and one side Jacks, were the favorites last winter. A Jack bouquet is generally trimmed with ribbon to match the color of the bud.

Over a thousand Jacks were used in Philadelphia recently on one occasion by one firm. The buds having a good stiff figure in the market at the time.

Jacqueminot is a second of the three roses, the price of which is always kept up, for the same reason that M. Niel is held stiff by the retail florist.

Jacqueminot was first introduced to the public in Boston, where it at once created a furore that has not yet subsided.
Discussion id : 90-932
most recent 17 FEB 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 FEB 16 by true-blue
For ease of referencing I have separated the paragraphs.
The author discusses two HPs the first being Géant des Batailles.

Hazel Le Rougetel - A Heritage of Roses, 1988 p.63-4

The 2nd 'Général Jacqueminot', was introduced in 1853 and described ten year later by David Hay of Auckland as 'most brilliant, crimson, scarlet, even surpassing Géant des Batailles, the best in this class'.
Eighteen year later, Henderson of New York, emphasized, 'This is now the most fashionable of all roses, or winter flowers' and thought that probably 200,000 sq. ft (18,580 sq. m) of greenhouses were devoted exclusively to its growth in the vicinity of New York for the purpose of forcing it.
Still the praise continued: B. A. Elliott & Co., Plantsmen of Pittsburgh had 'never had better success with Hybrid Perpetuals than in last summer and autumn; one bed of Jacqueminots containing a hundred plants gave us quantities of bloom daily from June to September' (A Few Flowers Worthy of General Culture, Pittsburgh, 1899).

Finally, forty years after introduction, T. B. Jenkins added his applause:

In 1853 France gave us Général Jacqueminot, leader of the Hybrid Perpetuals, the grand, dark crimson rose, so sturdy in growth, rich in bloom and powerful in colour. The great half grown crimson buds have slept on the bosom of every belle since that day and they have been sold by the hundred for as many dollars to New York dealers and were retailed, no doubt, for twice that sum. A few days before one Christmas the only Jacqueminot buds to be found in the city were sold for $15 each or eight times their weight in gold.
Roses and Rose Culture, Rochester, N.Y. (1892)
Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 FEB 16 by Patricia Routley
Thank you. Reference added.
Discussion id : 60-961
most recent 29 NOV 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 JAN 12 by goncmg
If you want to grow an easy rose from seed, this is the one in my experiences. You can just throw the seed in the soil, no chilling, nothing, and pretty much immediately as if it was a zinnia and not a rose, up they come, popcorn, huge germ %. And some end up being once-blooming but many bloom right away----they are never very good---but sometimes it is just about the experience and again, you want an easy one to see what a rose is like from seed, this is a good bet.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 JAN 12 by HMF Admin
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience with the HMF community !
Reply #2 of 2 posted 29 NOV 15 by Salix
It is important to note that only roses without species from temperate to artic enviroments in their near ancestry will sprout without chilling- rugosas, gallicas, damasks, and hybrid laxas (for example) won't sprout, but Chinas, hybrids banksias, HT, Teas, and most Noisettes will.
Discussion id : 73-995
most recent 9 SEP 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 SEP 13 by CybeRose
Everblooming Roses for the Out-door Garden of the Amateur (1912) pp. 44-45
Georgia Torrey Drennan

General Jacqueminot, among famous roses of the world, was the most distinct and celebrated member of this family until the appearance of the American Beauty. Charitably granted the weakness of blooming but once a year, paradoxical yet true, both General Jacqueminot and American Beauty must be accorded high place among everbloomers. They simply reverse the season. Their bloom time is winter. Florists find them as constant during the winter months as the Teas during the summer. They supply the cut roses of winter under the heaviest demands of society. Under glass, they make the winter garden brilliant.

Jacqueminot is much more available for amateurs than American Beauty. It is a free and responsive garden rose, blooming in great splendour for six weeks in spring and early summer. No rose can altogether take its place. Florists depend on it for exquisitely beautiful buds in winter, and so popular has it been that one occasion is recalled when the buds sold for eighteen dollars apiece in New York City. Sweep the eye over any garden of roses in springtime bloom, and it will be easily understood why General Jacqueminot is so highly distinguished. The intense glow and radiance of the rich crimson-lake roses of velvety substance, would give it distinction among the roses of Cashmere or the blooms of Damascus. Fisher Holmes, of later origin, is called the "improved Jacqueminot." It has the same deep, rich, crimson hue, and is a larger, fuller rose, blooming a week or ten days longer in spring.

(This discussion was published long before Nicholas imported the truly improved and ever-blooming Gen Jack from France.)
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