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'Maria Leonida' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 69-961
most recent 8 FEB 13 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 FEB 13 by monica.cavina
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Discussion id : 66-353
most recent 21 AUG 12 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 13 AUG 12 by Kit
This is a rose that can get to multiple times the described height, see the notes on my 11' tall, ten month old speciman with its photo, grown in my zone 10a garden. I'd like to hear from anyone growing this just how big it can get.

I'd give the foliage a 9.5 out of 10, it does have a little tiny bit of fresh mildew now, but didn't have any at all until July - around here really susceptible roses like 'Tea Rambler' will have mildew in February, 'Mister Lincoln' by April, and by July only the most resistant roses are mildew free -- less than 10% of my cultivars don't get any. Though our property is on the continental side of the Santa Monica Mountains, it is on the floor of a pass and gets the marine layer almost every night - in a normal year it doesn't stay long enough to give the gift of mildew from mid-July to mid-January, but this year I have roses like 'Climbing General McArthur', 'Peace' and 'Don Juan' still choking on the stuff! During the day, temps arrive to within 5° or 6°F of typical San Fernando Valley highs,

Can't pass judgement on what flowering is like yet.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 15 AUG 12 by Margaret Furness
See the photo of the one at Ruston's Roses. Since then it has covered the Silver Moon almost completely- I'd say it was 20', 6m, up the tree, and perhaps twice that in width.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 15 AUG 12 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Yes, it gets enormous. I had it here and gave it away early on as I couldn't give it the space it needs to be happy. This one needs acreage.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 20 AUG 12 by Kit
Thanks to both you and Margret -
I think I'm going to try and leave it in its pot, and train it up an orange tree.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 20 AUG 12 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Kit, I did that with 'Secret Garden Musk Climber'. It was gorgeous and very happy, but, it would have smothered the citrus tree to death had it let it.

Add the fact that it snagged me every time I walk by and eventually it had to go. Some of these roses require real space and a lot of patience.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 21 AUG 12 by Kit
Thanks again, Robert -
On to plan 'b' - train it 90° west from plan 'a' onto a lanai & garage roof . . .
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 21 AUG 12 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Sounds like a plan. It did flower for me at a relatively young age, just a few now and again. The blossoms are really lovely.
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Discussion id : 29-506
most recent 2 AUG 08 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 31 JUL 08 by Gerdhart
I got mine last year and it grows pretty well; it looks like as small climber as I have to train it. As it was raining a lot in May and June in Switzerland, it was a disaster for the flowers; they ball and could open at all, so I couldn’t see a complete opened flower... I'll try to change its place, more near the house where it is protected from the rain. It should be a remontant rose, so I hope I will have the chance to see the flowers this year! Does anyone have experience in growing this rose in Europe?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 31 JUL 08 by Cass
Hi, Gerd. I am looking forward to pictures, especially botanical details of the buds and foliage. There is some thought that Maria Leonida and Alba Odorata in commerce are the same rose. What you describe is typical of what we call Alba Odorata. But in a dry, hot location such as California's Sierra Nevada foothills, it excels. We still find Alba Odorata in old cemeteries, guarding the graves of early pioneers. If you look at the photos of Alba Odorata, you will see my shots of some botanical details and Jeri Jenning's shot of an old plant in a cemetery.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 31 JUL 08 by jedmar
Indeed, the photo of Amiroses seems to correspond to the semi-double bloom description for 'Maria Leonida', while the other two are very full. Tschanz has both listed in their catalogue. I wonder where they see the differences.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 31 JUL 08 by Cass
The foliage of our Alba Odorata has always reminded me of R. laevigata in the way the leaflets stand up. It will be interesting to see if there are indeed two roses and not one, and which is which!
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 2 AUG 08 by Gerdhart
Hi Cass, thank you for your reply. I will post some botanical details pictures very soon, as you're right, mine looks more like alba odorata. I hope, I'll get some flowers to compare with too! I got mine Rose Loubert in France, so will see. Greatings from Switzerland to all of you, Gerd
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Discussion id : 21-026
most recent 24 AUG 07 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 AUG 07 by Unregistered Guest
Moldenke was the botanist who set up the botanical name Rosa X leonida Moldenke. Raised by Lemoyne/Burdin, 1829.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 24 AUG 07 by Cass
Thanks, Fred, for the correction.
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