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'South Africa' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 126-585
most recent 22 MAR HIDE POSTS
Initial post 22 MAR by Michael Garhart
Probably a descendent of 'Bernstein Rose', given the codename, foliage, class, and color. I would guess the other parent is a large-flowered rose in some sort of gold tone.

First generation 'Bernstein Rose' cultivars tend to get downy very badly here, but not all 2nd generation 'Bernstein Rose' cultivars do. 'Summer Sun', bred from 'Gebrüder Grimm', does not get downy at all here. In fact, it's great here.

I have not had the chance of trying 'Good as Gold' here to see if it gets downy easily in the PNW.
Discussion id : 124-999
most recent 14 JAN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 JAN by Plazbo
Has flowered a lot, has not set hips, so probably not one to use as a seed parent.
Discussion id : 80-417
most recent 10 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 8 SEP 14 by mtspace
When it gets adequate moisture, this is among my favorite roses because of the color of its rather informal blooms. The foliage sets them off perfectly. The growth habit, being rangy and awkward, requires more management than I'd like. Its worst problem is that it seems to be more adversely affected by drought than just about any other rose in my collection of over 200 cultivars. I've lost two, almost three, to dry conditions. Lesser roses I would have given up on long ago. It seems happier in clay than in very light soils if it is to endure long dry periods.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 9 NOV 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for that fantastic info. In my experience, yellow and orange rose need lots of moisture, and clay holds moisture better than sand. How's the scent on South Africa? Is it very light, or is it noticeable? Thank you.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 9 NOV 16 by mtspace
I cannot say the scent is notable. Certainly Graham Thomas and Golden Celebration do better in this area. Also, the flowers are not very durable; it's certainly not a cutting rose. Still, it's a wonderful thing to behold when it is at the peak of bloom and enjoying ideal conditions.

Two surprises: 1) planted near Day Breaker, Lady Pamela Carol, and Graham Thomas it sets hips that turn a wonderful pumpkin orange. 2) given adequate moisture and light, it sports an occasional bloom right up until frost.
Reply #3 of 5 posted 9 NOV 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you for your thorough answers. I appreciate that !!
Reply #4 of 5 posted 28 APR by happymaryellen
My first one is blooming right now, I just planted this as a standard in February. The fragrance is the part that I’m most interested about because it does have fragrance and it’s unusual. I am so surprised that nobody else said anything about the fragrance. I wouldn’t say it’s strong but it is notably unique
Reply #5 of 5 posted 10 SEP by Plazbo
First flower for me here in Australia.

Kind of a medium strength for me in the middle of the day and direct sun, not a wafter but obvious if you go and sniff the flower. I can detect sweet lemon/citrus but that's the most common smell I detect in most moderns so I'm possibly not the best sniffer.
Discussion id : 121-045
most recent 19 APR HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 APR by Linda's Long Ago Roses
I just planted my own-root plant from Roses Unlimited in the ground last fall and it is spring now. It seems to have good vigor and for a young plant has grown nicely. Right now it has a lot of buds on it and a couple of stunningly beautiful blooms. They are very large for the size of the plant. They look a lot like Austins in form. The color is similar to Golden Celebration but deeper, a little more amber. I notice a light scent. It's a nice scent...not licorice. I don't see a speck of blackspot on the plant. I do spray . I have it in a fairly dry location so I hope I won't run into trouble with that. We had an incredibly rainy winter. Perhaps once established it can take some drought.
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