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Rose Listing Omission
Fiona's Blessing
Dicstaro
Recently announced by Colin Dickson. Social Media etc
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#1 of 1 posted
yesterday by
jedmar
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The statement in the Description section that it is a seedling of 'Triomphe du Luxembourg' is a misunderstanding of the 1836 Annales de Flore quote that it and two other roses are "children of the Luxembourg." The quote means that the three roses were raised (by Hardy) at the Luxembourg Palace gardens, not that they are seedlings from 'Triomphe du Luxembourg'.
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The HMF entry has this rose being raised by Francois Cels. Was it perhaps raised by either Hardy or Cels, and then introduced by the other?
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#2 of 3 posted
3 days ago by
odinthor
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Yes, that's how I construe the quote. Here's my translation: "“Flower medium-sized, charmingly colored pink with marbling; the bush blooms constantly and abundantly. These three roses [among which is ‘Cels Multiflore’], children of the Luxembourg, are being propagated in the establishment of the Cels Bros.”
"Children of the Luxembourg" essentially means "Hardy or one of his underlings raised them at the Luxembourg."
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#3 of 3 posted
3 days ago by
jedmar
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Agreed, parentage removed. In the case of 'Archiduchesse Thérèse Isabelle', one of the three roses mentioned in the reference, the attribution to Barbot as breeder by Gravereaux seems questionable too.
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The Prior Rose is Diclikely
This rose is Cherry Lane
Both introduced by Allensmore Nursery and sold through Waitrose
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#1 of 2 posted
4 days ago by
jedmar
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The information of your post of August 4 is incorrect?
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It appears so, as the labels with the roses and what has been told to me by Allensmore Nursery confirm the alteration
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Rose Listing Omission
Gardeners Choice
Bred by Colin Dickson
Breeder's Code: Dictempo
Pink, Red, Yellow
75 x 90
(Alexander's Issue x Sprikola) x Miss Kate
Introduced in 2024 by Allensmore Nursery and sold through Waitrose
Ref: Breeder, Allensmore Nursery, Internet and Social Media
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#1 of 1 posted
4 days ago by
jedmar
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Not in the 2024 Allensmore catalogue. Couldn't find on internet or social media. Can you be more specific on the reference please?
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