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most recent 13 APR SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 11 FEB by JasonSims1984
Supposedly the foliage of this rose is fragrant? Heirloom Roses lists it with that description. The lineage shows sweetbriar on both sides.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 13 APR by AndrewBarocco
I can absolutely confirm that. It is not as strong or as pronounced as a pure-blooded sweetbriar, and it takes just the right weather conditions to be noticeable, but it is amazing intoxicating when it does. It's the same foliar fragrance as the bud tips of Brite Eyes and Sunny Knock-Out.
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Initial post 12 FEB by JasonSims1984
I wonder why this rose hasn't been used in hybridizing very much. Those glossy leaves clearly offer some potential. Rugosa x laevigata ought to be a no brainer for a disease resistant and climate adapted line.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 FEB by Salix
People have tried! It does not cross easily.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 FEB by JasonSims1984
I see. Do its descendents have the same problem? Is it being used in tet crosses or dip? I kind of feel like creating a diploid line of roses could be a very profitable venture. Reinvent the hybrid tea as a diploid.

Hollandica looks kind of promising as a starting point.

(Moschata x Chinensis) x Rugosa.

Gigantea and chinensis are dip. It just needs the appropriate tea to get the right flower form. If no one else has done it, I certainly will.
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most recent 15 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 FEB by JasonSims1984
A few people have told me that foetida has fragrant foliage. I see it listed as such under Persiana, but not here in this listing. Does anyone know? Supposedly the leaves smell fruity?
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 14 FEB by Rupert, Kim L.
I've not encountered any "Foetida" variant (Copper, Yellow, Bicolor, etc.) which did not possess the "Juicy Fruit Gum" scent to their peduncles, sepals and new growth tips. That scent can carry through a few generations when bred with the right mate.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 15 FEB by JasonSims1984
Thanks :)
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 FEB by Rupert, Kim L.
You're welcome! That includes Persian Yellow, the double yellow. It has a luscious fruity smell to those parts.
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most recent 13 FEB HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 FEB by JasonSims1984
Looks way too dark
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 13 FEB by orsola
This shrub with maternal company Rosen Tantau in Uetersen, who bred this variety.
So why do you question this variation? After all, it is signed where the photo was taken.
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