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Patricia Routley
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Initial post 2 days ago by AnitaSacramento
How may I update the as of date for the plant listing for Sacramento Historic Rose Garden? It keeps showing 14 Nov 2008.
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
You must have added or deleted a rose as it is now showing “Listing last updated on 16 Sep 2019.”
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 2 days ago by AnitaSacramento
If you click on "Plants grown" it shows the 2008 date. Yes, I have been updating - much overdue!
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
All gardens should be updated once a year. I pick early January to do mine.
I got on to my husband’s computer and, yes the update date is showing 2008.
On my (volunteer administrator’s) computer it shows 2019. We’ll get help on this one.
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Reply #5 of 6 posted yesterday by HMF Admin
Patricia, sounds like your husband's computer needs to refresh the cache. The procedure is slightly different depending on the browser used. It should be refreshing automatically though ?
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Reply #6 of 6 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
Thank you Admin. We’ll....er...er ... take it on board.
Later edit - I see. We got it. Ta.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted yesterday by HMF Admin
There is a UPDATE AS OF DATE button for changing this date. Is it not displayed for you ? Meanwhile, we've update the date for you but we still want to address this issue. The AS OF date is automatically updated if you use the UPLOAD LIST OF PLANTS feature.
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Initial post yesterday by the doctor
The rose 'Ali Baba' was introduced in Australia by Roses and Friends in 2012, not Wagners as shown by you.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted yesterday by Patricia Routley
Thank you. Corrected.
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Initial post 14 days ago by Patricia Routley
Deborah, following a hunch here, could you serve us up a plate of petals from an average bloom of “San Leandro Dark Red HT” - (much as I have done with the Australian foundling “Ebenezer Cemetery Miniature China”). I would like to confirm the petal shape and number of petals for “San Leandro Dark Red HT”.
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 13 days ago by Deborah Petersen
Patricia, the rose isn't in bloom at this time, but should start a fall flush sometime soon. When it blooms again, I can certainly post a plate of petals for you.
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 13 days ago by Patricia Routley
Thank you.
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 3 days ago by Deborah Petersen
I've just posted some photos of blooms and dissections in "fall mode", Patricia. They are generally a little smaller, maybe a few less petals, and not as intensely black as the blooms in cooler spring weather, but typical for this time of year.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 3 days ago by Patricia Routley
Thanks Deborah. A couple of weeks ago I passed one of my tiny bushes of ‘Crimson Glory’ and it seemed to have “sage green” foliage. That and the intense fragrance seemed a possibility. So then I read the patent for ‘Crimson Glory’ and I wanted to see how big the white nub was in the “San Leandro Dark Red HT”. My bushes are not yet blooming but the Patent indicates a bigger white nub in ‘Crimson Glory’. I would guess that your foundling is not C.G. Yes, yes - I know you could have told me that. Anyway, I’ll keep my eye out for other possibilities.
Patricia
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Reply #5 of 5 posted yesterday by Deborah Petersen
Good to know, Patricia. I don't know 'Crimson Glory' "personally" and was interested to see that some of its blooms can at times resemble those on this rose, looking at photos on HMF. In any case, it was good to get some dissected flower photos up for future reference!
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Initial post 22 NOV 16 by Simon Voorwinde
The Australia patent site states 'Blue for You, was bred in 2001, not 2006:

"‘PEJAMBLU’ was the resultant seedling from the cross between ‘ROGSCRIV’ syn. Natural Beauty (seed parent) and an unnamed seedling (pollen parent) in 2001. "
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 24 NOV 16 by Patricia Routley
Simon, I've altered the date from 2006 to 2001.
We have a pollen parent of [Summer Wine x Scrivbell] and I am reluctant to delete that in favour of .....unnamed seedling.
But I cannot find where we got that parentage from.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 24 NOV 16 by Simon Voorwinde
I'm assuming 'Summer Wine' x SCRIVbell = unnamed seedling so all is good.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 2 days ago by Rosentrost
Is it possible, that the other Summerwine (breeder: Warriner) is parent of Blue for you?
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.39942.1
Looks more like a Bfy-Parent than Summer Wine bred by Kordes...
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
Possible, but I doubt it. We have:
Summerwine (hybrid tea, Warriner, 1974)
Summer Wine (climber, Kordes before 1980)
This latter rose received good reviews in England (see the Note and the 1983 reference for it.) and the breeder, James, lived in England.
The Patent mentions Summer Wine (not Summerwine) with unfortunately no code.
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