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Initial post 29 SEP 13 by Michael Garhart
I really tried to like this rose, but it never worked out. It has a lot of the flaws of the early 1900s orange polyanthas, which is that the plant is consistently in mildew, and the color fades rapidly to a really trashy shade of off-pink. For landscape roses, Fire Meidiland is an orange hint of scarlet, is also smaller scale, and it does not mildew here. Flower Carpet Coral is also okay, but it is single and very airy, which doesn't always give the full effect in landscape roses.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 4 days ago by goncmg
Its a cold, windy night here in Charleston and I'm poring over roses on HMF. I love your commentary, Michael. I lol for real with the "trashy pink" mentioned here.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 days ago by Michael Garhart
hah, thanks.

I caught an error, too. I meant Ruby Meidiland :D I still have Ruby M., too, although the HMF pics dont do it justice.
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Initial post 5 days ago by goncmg
I have this annual. This is Fashion.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 days ago by Patricia Routley
It certainly is. I apologise, but thank you goncmg. Photo deleted.
most recent 18 OCT SHOW ALL
Initial post 18 JAN 12 by goncmg
I echo what I read from the most recent posts. Terribly disappointing unless rose foliage rings your bell. The plant is strong! The leaves are beautiful! But it NEVER blooms! And when it does the bloom may be perfectly formed but it is always too small for the bush/stem/leaves. Many long as in 6 feet + basals thrown in 6a that end up being blind. Gave mine to a friend who planted it in her yard and killed it. As I planned.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 17 APR 14 by Bruce Treloar
Probably it likes a warmer climate. I have ten in 8" pots which have survived a six months drought with very little watering. At the moment I have one with three medium sized blooms of good form on a tidy bush. There is some Blackspot because it's rained nearly every day for the past six weeks. I bought in some budwood as it has been given a good health rating. It is possibly not very palatable for the raiding Kangaroo's ate just about everything during the drought but left Lynn alone.
I do like Lynn's rendition of "Rose Garden"
Reply #2 of 3 posted 18 OCT by Michael Garhart
This is a rose that is superior as an own root than grafted. Better branching, better matched vigor for the class.

100% would not recommend it grafted. TOO TALL and TOO RIGID. Like an 8' tower.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 18 OCT by Bruce Treloar
Michael, thanks for your advice but must mention we have a curl grub problem as well as the .Kangaroo's.
That means the top is eaten off sometimes and the curl grubs eat the roots in Summer. I have been trialing putting everything grafted on Multiflora and this year hopefully testing Fortuniana to combat the grubs. Curl grubs like semi dry soil like potting mix and our light open soil. To help eradicate them I dam up the rose plant approximately 12inches (300mm) out from the crown and fill it with water 4 or 5 times a day for 3 days. Then use a tiller to scratch the soil to a depth of about 3 to 4 inches (75 to 100mm). The grubs will have nearly surfaced and not uncommon to see the wild birds having a feast of grubs.Potted roses are immersed pot and all in a large bath and left for 3 days, then they can be found very close to the surface.

I don't use sprays or any chemicals at all, just let the cream of the crop float to the top and cull the duds.
most recent 10 SEP SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 JAN 12 by goncmg
If I were to be in charge of buying a few roses for someone who does not have a green thumb and/or has never grown roses, EARTH SONG would be at the top of the list. Just like everyone has posted here, the plant just grows with enthusiasm and blooms like mad. The color is pretty common but up against Electron or Miss All American Beauty or Peter Frankenfeld or Cynthia or Tribute or so many others, for the novice this is just tops. Took winter 88-89 and 92-93 in Columbus (temps reached nearly -20 with not much snow cover) with only 1/2 way die-back. To boot, the plant was standing alone in an underplanted border and subject to hideous winds. Finally moved it to the "real rose garden" when it became clear that (1) it earned its spot and (2) originally marketed as a shrub it is really a GR........close to 40 years old and just chugging along, still rated I think 8.0, nobody ever talks about it and you don't see it offered that many places.....totally under-appreciated/under-marketed............
Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 SEP by Michael Garhart
That's what I did, except I sent them Barn Dance. They have it a decade later.
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