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most recent 6 MAR SHOW ALL
Initial post 4 JUN 10 by Charles Quest-Ritson
This is a photograph of a Moss rose. 'Josephine de Beauharnais' was an Alba and/or a HP.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 JUN 13 by DWalter
That is probably true, I was wondering as well, but then the rose is mislabelled in the Roseraie du Val de Marne (Hay).
Reply #2 of 3 posted 12 MAY 14 by Chris Bensick
Vintage Gardens of California has also sold this rose (imported from Loubert) as Josephine de Beauharnais. Like the photo from Roseraie de l'Hay, it is very mossy, and unlike the published descriptions, it has deep crimson flowers. Although the attribution (by both Loubert and l'Hay) is possibly a misnomer, it is a fine rose and any further information about its identity would be appreciated.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 MAR by Holly Hagy
Yes, I purchased mine from Vintage and mine is a moss, dark pink. Magenta. At first I thought it could be Eugene de Beauharnais but it doesn’t resemble it at all. Not in the buds, foliage or prickles. It’s a beautiful rose, whatever it is, for now, mine stays labeled as Josephine with a question mark after it.
most recent 13 SEP 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Does your 'New Dawn' regularly have a second flush of flowers?
Regards, Andrew.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 SEP 18 by DWalter
Hi Andrew,

no, not usually. This year it's a single flower.

Best regards, Steffen
Reply #2 of 2 posted 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Thanks Steffen for your quick response. There is more discussion in the members' comments section about this roses repeat flowering ability which seems to be becoming less and less.
most recent 12 JUL 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 11 JUL 17 by Jay-Jay
If You like this-one, You might like 'Heinrich Conrad Söth' too.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 JUL 17 by DWalter
You know, I have a wishlist of about two dozen roses I love but don't have room for in the garden. We have to move!
most recent 9 APR 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 31 MAY 12 by DWalter
Can anybody help me with identifying these roses?

No. 1 seems to be a species rose which I found growing wild in my garden. I tend to think it's R. arvensis, from its habit (it's creeping all over the ground, although it's also sending up vertical shoots) and from the flower, but then how would I know R. arvensis from R. canina? The flowers seem nearly white, but not completely so.

No. 2 is something I found by the roadside in a Hamburg street, so it will be either a species rose (the city of Hamburg tends to plant R. rugosa and R. pimpinellifolia / spinosissima along roads) or something else simple and hardy. I took cuttings last year and they all rooted and are doing just fine. I first thought it might be R. gallica, but now it does look rather too fancy to me to be that. An advanced search of the HMF database for the characteristics of this rose didn't turn up a lot that looked similar except one rambler rose with similar flowers, but this is most decidedly not a rambler but something rather short in stature.
Edit: It does look a bit like Bingo / Carefree Delight (Meilland 1994), maybe?

Any comments would be most appreciated.
Reply #1 of 7 posted 1 JUN 12 by jedmar
The colour is a bit like 'Red Carefree Spirit' but the petal shape seems different. I thought 'Bukavu', but I am not convinced of that either.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 2 JUN 12 by DWalter
Thank you. Bukavu--yes, the flowers are very similar. The leaves are different though, they are pointed, these are are rather rounded and not quite as glossy, maybe also smaller. Also, my rose is rather short in stature, Bukavu seems a large shrub. I guess I might be settling for No. 2 being Bingo.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 19 OCT 15 by Michael Garhart
Its not Bukavu, which is not hand-painted, and does not have male parts of that color. The rose in the photo is from a hand-painted line.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 19 OCT 15 by Salix
The species is mosly likely arvensis, the very tight bunch of stigmas are sysntylae (or however it's spelt), canina does not have that.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 9 APR 17 by DWalter
I missed this comment earlier. Thank you! However, with the help of this guide (, and considering the photos I have since posted of this rose which definitely show free styles and pink buds, I have definitely identified my rose as r. canina (alba, if you like, for the open flowers are almost perfectly white).
Reply #5 of 7 posted 20 OCT 15 by Jay-Jay
The second rose, I found too in my town along a bike-road, growing between other bushes.
I propagated it. Called it "Roos Fietspad" as a study-name.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 9 APR 17 by Andrew from Dolton
The leaves and growth habit are very different to Rosa canina.
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