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most recent 30 JAN SHOW ALL
Initial post 10 JUN 12 by DWalter
The description says "pink and yellow". But as all the photos show, this rose is white.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 30 JAN by CybeRose
White is the typical color of the Scotch rose, but color variants turn up ... or so I've read.

Sabine (1822) gave an account of the origin of the first double Scotch roses in assorted colors.

I am indebted to Mr. ROBERT BROWN, one of the partners of the firm at the above period, for the following account of their origin. In the year 1793, he and his brother transplanted some of the wild Scotch Roses from the Hill of Kinnoul, in the neighbourhood of Perth, into their nursery garden: one of these bore flowers slightly tinged with red, from which a plant was raised, whose flowers exhibited a monstrosity, appearing as if one or two flowers came from one bud, which was a little tinged with red; these produced seed, from whence some semi-double flowering plants were obtained; and by continuing a selection of seed, and thus raising new plants, they in 1802 and 1803, had eight* good double varieties to dispose of; of these they subsequently increased the number, and from the stock in the Perth garden the nurseries both of Scotland and England were first supplied.
most recent 6 MAR SHOW ALL
Initial post 4 JUN 10 by Charles Quest-Ritson
This is a photograph of a Moss rose. 'Josephine de Beauharnais' was an Alba and/or a HP.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 JUN 13 by DWalter
That is probably true, I was wondering as well, but then the rose is mislabelled in the Roseraie du Val de Marne (Hay).
Reply #2 of 3 posted 12 MAY 14 by Chris Bensick
Vintage Gardens of California has also sold this rose (imported from Loubert) as Josephine de Beauharnais. Like the photo from Roseraie de l'Hay, it is very mossy, and unlike the published descriptions, it has deep crimson flowers. Although the attribution (by both Loubert and l'Hay) is possibly a misnomer, it is a fine rose and any further information about its identity would be appreciated.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 MAR by Holly Hagy
Yes, I purchased mine from Vintage and mine is a moss, dark pink. Magenta. At first I thought it could be Eugene de Beauharnais but it doesn’t resemble it at all. Not in the buds, foliage or prickles. It’s a beautiful rose, whatever it is, for now, mine stays labeled as Josephine with a question mark after it.
most recent 13 SEP 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Does your 'New Dawn' regularly have a second flush of flowers?
Regards, Andrew.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 SEP 18 by DWalter
Hi Andrew,

no, not usually. This year it's a single flower.

Best regards, Steffen
Reply #2 of 2 posted 13 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Thanks Steffen for your quick response. There is more discussion in the members' comments section about this roses repeat flowering ability which seems to be becoming less and less.
most recent 12 JUL 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 11 JUL 17 by Jay-Jay
If You like this-one, You might like 'Heinrich Conrad Söth' too.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 JUL 17 by DWalter
You know, I have a wishlist of about two dozen roses I love but don't have room for in the garden. We have to move!
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