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Andrew from Dolton
most recent 9 days ago SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 AUG by PepperReed
Anyone have Westerlund in Zone 5-ish (I'm in mid-MI on a sunny open hilltop with fast draining loam)? I want to plant her on the other side of our entrance gate across from Zepherine and wondered how tall she would get here and if there are any cautionary tales about her thorny-ness! I'd like to both 'match' and contrast with ZD, and Westy looks like a nice pink color match with the extra peachy yellow contrast and petal differential. Thoughts from any Westerlund owners? I'm also considering Portlandia for this purpose. Thanks!
Reply #1 of 1 posted 9 days ago by Andrew from Dolton
'Westerland' is moderately armed with largish thorns. In my garden it makes a large bush but I think it would make climber if I grew it with the protection of a warm wall. What you plant next to each other is your personal choice but IMO orange coloured 'Westerland' and vivid pink of 'Zephirine Drouhin' might clash, but they both have wonderful smells.
most recent 3 JUL HIDE POSTS
Initial post 1 JUL by Patricia Routley
Responding further to member GHS69 and Margaret Furness.

Thanks Margaret. I am not so sure about burnout, but after a bout of influenza for both of us, I knew I had to take more rest. It has actually been wonderful and I have read, rested, got out into my garden, thoroughly overhauled the garage shelving, thrown out enormous amounts of junk in the garage, bought new lamps, and looked at re-curtaining the whole house. After 5-ish hours a day consistently from 2006 to 2021 on HelpMeFind, this return to a normal retirement at the age of 80 has been most welcome. I know my husband Rob, at 92, also is appreciative.
I am feeling most guilty that there are areas that I could still help on this site. However the eyesight is not as good these days, and I cannot cope with the numerous glitches and very slow speeds on a satellite internet service. It is time for me to stop.
It has been exhilerating, and a fascinating journey with HelpMeFind and I am deeply grateful to the website owners who allowed me to contribute to the history of the Australian rose scene on this incredible website. Sharing rose research is in this way has been rewarding and I do recommend it to others. My fond regards to all the rosarians I have met on HelpMeFind.
Reply #1 of 8 posted 1 JUL by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Thank you Patricia. Your work, now and over the years, is much appreciated.
Reply #2 of 8 posted 1 JUL by Marlorena
Patricia, very best wishes to you and your husband. You will be greatly missed..
Reply #3 of 8 posted 1 JUL by jedmar
Patricia, you have been warning, but I cannot believe it! We worked so well together. It has been a great journey. Please look in from time to time!
Reply #4 of 8 posted 1 JUL by Andrew from Dolton
You are a true rosarian.
Reply #5 of 8 posted 1 JUL by Give me caffeine
Just saw this. Best wishes for your "normal" retirement, Patricia. It's been a pleasure to get to know you. And thank you for all your work over the years. You've been a great asset to this site.
Reply #6 of 8 posted 2 JUL by Patricia Routley
Thank you Kathy, Marlorena, Andrew and Give Me Caffeine. Your kind words are much appreciated.
And dear Jedmar - of course I will be looking in. The love of roses and their history does not suddenly dissipate. My maiden surname actually included the word ‘rose’, so it is ingrained.
Reply #7 of 8 posted 2 JUL by HubertG
Patricia, I don't know what to say. I hope you might be able to find some sort of happy middle ground with contributing lesser hours. However if this is really what you want, I wish you all the best and sincerely thank you for your truly immense contribution to HMF.
Reply #8 of 8 posted 3 JUL by billy teabag
Thank you Patricia. Such a contribution. Thank you.
most recent 1 JUL SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 SEP 17 by Andrew from Dolton
So, is this rose 'Jacques Cartier' or 'Marchesa Boccella'?
Reply #1 of 3 posted 12 MAR by pvaz
That's what I've been asking myself... I wish I could tell them apart too.

I have four plants labeled as Jacques Cartier/ Marchesa Bocella (interchangeably) from two different nurseries. The one from nursery #1 only blooms once a year. The other three from nursery #2, were in constant bloom last summer.

They look exactly the same: same growth pattern, leaf shape and color, bloom size, fragrance and appearance. But they behave differently... I wonder if one is Marchesa Boccela and the other is Jacques Cartier?
Reply #2 of 3 posted 29 JUN by myd
The roses you got from nursery #2 that are blooming constantly- I would love to know which nursery you got them from.

I have read that this rose does well in my area (Maryland) and that it blooms constantly here. I would like to buy it, but I am hesitant because I have read that some versions of this bush are only blooming once. I think if I knew someone had bought it at a certain place and it was a repeat bloomer, I would feel confidant that the rose I buy from the same place would also be a repeat bloomer.

Also - If anyone else out there is growing this rose near Maryland 7a I'd love to hear your experience with this rose.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 1 JUL by Nastarana
I bought a Marchesa Bocella from Connie Hilkins when her nursery was still open. What I have does repeat but not continuously. It is a lighter pink than that shown in the picture. I don't recall quite such extravagant sepals; I will have to check for that when the next bloom cycle occurs.
most recent 26 JUN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 JUN by Johno
How common is it for Rosa Mundi to revert back to R. Gallica Officinalis?
Reply #1 of 2 posted 26 JUN by Margaret Furness
I think fairly common. See Orsola's photos at Hamburg. Ross's plant reverted.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 26 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
It often reverts, here is gallica 'Officinalis' grown from one of it's reversions.
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