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most recent 6 JUN SHOW ALL
Initial post 21 SEP by mamabotanica
Any advice for a zone 10 gardener? I have two one year old budded Wollerton bushes in the front and they are sending out long octopus arms. I wonder if I used a 7 ft trellis or obelisk if they would quickly overwhelm it or if it makes sense to tame them with something structural? Do I need one per rose or could I combine both of them on one structure? Or am I foolish in expecting that anything will tame a rose that wants to grow long tall canes that flop over neighboring plants?
Reply #1 of 8 posted 21 SEP by Andrew from Dolton
If you pegged these long shoots down would they flower all the way along their length?
Reply #2 of 8 posted 21 SEP by mamabotanica
That would be lovely! Hoping someone with experience will weigh in
Reply #3 of 8 posted 21 SEP by Margaret Furness
Pegging down doesn't work well in my zone 9b climate (South Australia) unless you mulch very heavily underneath, because the grass/weeds keep growing all winter. We generally go for the espalier / training on a trellis option. I haven't tried an obelisk so can't comment on that.
Reply #4 of 8 posted 6 JUN by Lavenderlace
How did it work out for you Mamabotanica? I'm thinking of using this rose as a climber in my climate also. Mine are too young to have much in the thorn department, but I noticed that Heirloom described WOF as nearly thorn-free. Can anybody confirm this? Thanks!
Reply #5 of 8 posted 6 JUN by mamabotanica
Hi, the mow and blow guys took it upon themselves to prune one of the roses so I'm waiting for that to grow back to train it on an obelisk. The other was my first attempt to attach a rose to a support and it didn't fare well (bent my two main canes and snapped another one off :(. The new growth on the rose is looking green and beautiful. I think it will work and I'm glad it seems to have forgiven me my learning curve.
Reply #6 of 8 posted 6 JUN by Lavenderlace
Thanks for the update, sounds like it will be beautiful! Did you happen to notice what the thorns were like?
Reply #7 of 8 posted 6 JUN by Patricia Routley
Have a look at the Patent Lavenderlace. There is a small paragraph near the end on the thorns.
Reply #8 of 8 posted 6 JUN by Lavenderlace
Thanks Patricia, that was incredibly helpful! I've never looked at the patents before but there is so much info on them! For anybody following this thread, the answer is that WOH is indeed low on thorns.
most recent 30 MAY HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 MAY by mamabotanica
I have this rose as an own root rose and it just sent up a thorny tall cane typical of the ones I see when a rose has been budded on to other root stock. Is this just a physiological response that any rose has? and, if so, what triggers it? Or could it be that the own root rose nursery had some budded ones? (that seems doubtful to me).
most recent 11 MAR SHOW ALL
Reply #1 of 6 posted 22 DEC by Elizabethspetals
I’m in So CA, just north of San Diego. My Princess Charlene de Monaco does just fine here as long as I give it plenty of water. The blooms do fade in the sun, but I cut mine for indoors most often, so that’s not an issue for me. I’ll warn you though, this rose shot up to 12 feet tall in 10 months. I bent most of her canes and attached them to trellises on either sides of the bush. This produced nice long, straight, laterals, each with a perfect bloom at the end. This rose is an arrangers dream! Nice long, straight, strong stems and beautiful blooms that last. The scent is unique and one of my favorites. I like it so much, I’m considering purchasing a second one!
Reply #2 of 6 posted 25 DEC by mamabotanica
That is incredibly helpful to know! Good thing I now won't plant it in a spot for a 3.5 ft tall rose. Wonder if it would do ok twining around an obelisk?
Reply #3 of 6 posted 31 JAN by Elizabethspetals
Maybe, if you start early enough.
Reply #4 of 6 posted 10 MAR by Lavenderlace
Lisa, have you heard of this extreme height anywhere else or is she just particularly happy with your soil and conditions? I have some coming and can't figure out where to put them! Better for full sun or can she take some shade? Is she picky about the soil? Thanks!
Reply #5 of 6 posted 10 MAR by Elizabethspetals
Hi lav! I’ve heard reports of over 7F tall in zone 7. Others have just said “mine is super tall, too!” If you don’t get any winter dieback, then I would think she’d get tall. She’s pretty narrow, though. My soil is alkaline clay, but my PCDM’s are grafted on Dr. Huey. I’d like to try one ownroot, and see if that might shorten her a bit. I do love her! You can’t find a better rose for cutting, IMO. Lisa
Reply #6 of 6 posted 10 MAR by Elizabethspetals
Oh, and mine are in full sun, so I’m not sure about shade tolerance.
Reply #7 of 6 posted 11 MAR by Lavenderlace
Thanks so much Lisa! It is your gorgeous bouquets that inspired me to get them!
most recent 10 MAR SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 APR 17 by zztop
I must have this rose. Where can I buy it in the US?
Reply #1 of 2 posted 9 MAR by mamabotanica
I suffer the same affliction. Did you find any sources?
Reply #2 of 2 posted 10 MAR by zztop
no, unfortunately.
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