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kai-eric 
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I have Comtesse de Noghera and she's way taller than she should be. She's almost 2 meters or seven feet. Her flowers are golden with cream, very beautiful and a strong fragrance is present. She isn't pink or salmon pink so it is correct that the rose in Europe sold as Comtesse de Noghera is in fact Madame Jules Gravereaux.
I got mine from Loubert...
Edit: The second flush in much warmer weather gave me light pink to salmon pink flowers. Fragrance is strong Tea with fruity notes
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11 days ago by
kai-eric
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comtesse de noghera from whichever nursery can show the typical colors of mme jules gravereaux depending on wheather impact such as temperature and humidity.
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presumably professeur ganiviat?
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my tip - follow the smell!
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madame bérard should be without prickles!
the loubert's version is clearly not and has great resemblance with 'comtesse de noghera/ mme jules gravereaux' from other sources.
a mixup had occurred of adam and mme bérard at beales' roses in the past, if i remember well, when they sold erranously a non-prickley "adam", and so did afterwards a good number of nurseries.
loubert's rose is definitely another thing and may have come from the l'hay-les-roses-collection where i saw a prickly madame bérard 15 years ago.
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