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'Queen Elizabeth' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 39-355
most recent 2 MAY SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 23 SEP 09 by arvid jørgensen
This has for many years been one of the most popular roses in Norway and consequently widely planted. The main reason for which is probably that she appears to be a hybrid tea, even though she in fact is a floribunda. This makes her a bit more hardy and easier to grow in our Norwegian climate than most of the hybrid teas. The flowers are beautiful and tend to appear one by one like on a hybrid tea, thus making them suitable for cutting. Some years ago I took some "Rose Friends" of mine from the Oslo aerea to visit the village of Korshavn on the coast east of Lista. Here we came across a plant of Queen Elizabeth up a wall of an old wooden house almost reaching the top of the gable. Really a sight. The owner, an elderly lady, came out to greet us and we complemented her on the impressing rose. She complained about not having had the time to cut it back that spring, and of course we asked - why cut back? Yes why indeed. Most people here seem to have a strange notion that all roses should always be cut back in spring - period. I think the lady decided to heed our advice. And yes - a Queen Elizabeth of almost 3 meters in full flush covering about half of a wall is indeed a spectacular sight not soon to be forgotten. My neighbour also had a beautiful Queen Elizabeth once up his garage wall ,which he cut back to almost nothing every spring. I pitied the poor plant and told him he was likely to lose it if he kept on doing so. And he did - both - keep on doing so, and lose the plant.
So what about my own plant then? Well that is a totally different story, and like my neighbour`s , quite a sad one too at that - till now. She has never been one to flower much, sending up canes and twigs ending at best in two or three flowers per season. I pinched the shoots, cut back the plant and did everything I was supposed to do according to the books. To no avail. I had given up the plant entirely when I this spring bought a clematis "The Vagabond" and told my Queen Elizabeth that I would leave her be if she could serve as a good support for the clematis. And what do you know! The plant has flowered almost continuously and is still now in September showing off many beautiful flowers. This is not the only time I have experienced this. I have many times wondered: Do the plants have a way of perceiving things? Other gardeners have had the same experience. Very strange indeed. But then again, plants are living beings not things, and this really makes my heart go out to them, and I love them for it.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 24 APR by BrianH
Arvid, thank you for your comments. This kind of information, together with your personal experience, is exactly what I need to enjoy roses and the community devoted to them. Also, as an English teacher, I admire your elegant writing style and the warmth of your narrative.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 MAY by arvid jørgensen
Thank you for your kind comments, Brian. I much appreciate it. Although I have lost the "Vagabond" Clematis, I still have my "Queen Elizabeth". She is back to normal now so to speak. Maybe she misses the Vagabond. Who knows. I may have to buy me a new one. There is however a "Jackmanii" and the Estonian "Mikelite" there, but they seem to be heading for the Lilac Tree in the background ; which of course was my intention in the first place. Anyway I am happy to have my "Queen" still and she is of course welcome to stay for as long as she wants. Good luck with your gardening. This is a busy time here and I love it. The revival of Nature once again. Aren`t we lucky to experience this Miracle every year?

Best regards from Arvid
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Discussion id : 91-868
most recent 2 APR 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 APR 16 by Andrew from Dolton
One of my Queen Elizabeth roses threw this sport a couple of years ago, the petal on the top is from one of the usual "ugly" pink.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 2 APR 16 by Give me caffeine
Interesting. I recently had one of my Mr. Lincolns throw out a single bloom in almost exactly the same colour. Only the one. Never seen it before or since. Plants are funny things.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 2 APR 16 by Andrew from Dolton
Indeed they are, this has fewer petals than usual and a smaller flower, but the colour is far darker than most of the other sports, it is shorter growing too with more prickles and paler stems.
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Discussion id : 70-729
most recent 16 FEB 16 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 31 MAR 13 by goncmg
Flippantly went to several known nurseries tonight to buy this one. Don't love it, see my prior post, but very important in history and I want it. Well, guess what? Barely available. Actually really NOT available. I am speechless. This one isn't even in the garden centers here in Columbus, bagged and waxed. Beyond shocked.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 FEB 16 by Daniel Alm
Don't fear, it will come back next year to haunt us. Ugly flowers on a good bush, and since it is hard to kill it's perfect for beginners. I can't think of any other reason why this variety keeps on showing up in nurseries. I reserve the same derision for the Knock-out series. QE does have its uses in breeding, apparently it will accept pollen from almost anything and set seeds. Problem is, you have to breed out that ugly flower color and form in succeeding generations. ~Benaminh
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 FEB 16 by goncmg
Great comment. I did get it again! In 2014 wham, there it was in my garden center! I used to absolutely hate all pink roses but lately have softened and am really finding beauty in them all. But I do agree with your general sentiment with QE and , wow, Knock-Out and anything named any sort of Knock-Out. And your comparison of QE and K-O is spot on. It is the "plant" that got them introduced, the blooms are not noteworthy (QE) and are downright ugly (K-O). Without a doubt hundreds of thousands of seedlings that look just like both of them have been culled since their introduction--in Knock-Out's case probably billions as Knock-Out looks like every disappointing seedling any hybridizer has hung his/her head over......roses were post war to maybe 1990 very much "fashion" (pun I suppose intended) and it took Knock-Out to get roses noticed again, grown widely again, and in some strange way "fashion" again. Lammerts and Radler won some Power Ball with their creations. The time was right, lightening struck, some marketing machine backing them up took a sell-able product and ran with it.
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Discussion id : 76-949
most recent 1 MAR 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 FEB 14 by Slave to the garden
It's a very strong clean tall gorgeous rose and climber . Simple as that. You want a long stem, beautiful bud, and a very strong pink color, this is the one. Easy to grow, disease resistant, survives nearly all seasons well. Can produce as many as 20 at a time in bloom on a very modest plant. I agree if there is a hall of fame for roses this would be one of the first honored. Great breeder also.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 MAR 14 by Patricia Routley
Indeed. In 1978 the World Federation of Rose Societies declared this the world's favourite rose and gave it their Hall of Fame award. It is sometimes interesting to stop and look at the awards a particular rose has won. (Awards - at the top, in between lineage and references).
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