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Discussion id : 16-684
most recent 6 MAY 07 SHOW ALL
Initial post 13 FEB 07 by Patrick Watson
I just bought my first home,and I would like to start a rose garden.What do I need to do first?And are there any roses to start off with first
Reply #1 of 2 posted 18 FEB 07 by Wendy C.
Check out the Ezine article 'Roses 101'. That should answer most of your questions. Congrats on the new yard.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 MAY 07 by Elizabeth's garden
Queen Elizabeth and Tiffany are pretty good roses for their hardiness.
Discussion id : 12-921
most recent 6 MAY 07 SHOW ALL
Initial post 30 JUN 06 by glenys
Live in Perth WA. would like to know names of Floribunda and Hybrid Roses that tolerate part shade.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 30 JUN 06 by Jody
Hi I am in WA too. Most roses need several hrs of sun but I have Rosa Nutkana that is mostly in shade and thrives. I don't know of any Floribunda or Hybrid Tea that will do well in total shade but you might try any of the rugosas or hybrid rugosa. Does this area get any sun? I have a Hybrid Tea,  Pink Peace that only gets morning sun and does very well.  Good Luck
Reply #2 of 3 posted 6 MAY 07 by Elizabeth's garden
Angel Face is a floribunda that is supposed to be shade tolerant.
Chrysler Imperial, Blue Moon, Blue Girl, Swarthmore, Garden Party, and Bourbon are all shade tolerant hybrids.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 6 MAY 07 by billy teabag
I've found that many roses tolerate part-shade in Perth - they may be a little leggier but some roses definitely appreciate a bit of shade in the hot months. Success depends on 'how much' shade and whether the shade also comes with aggressive hungry and thirsty tree roots.
There are so many varieties to choose from and everyone has their favourites - it's a very personal decision.
Melvilles Rose Nursery in Carmel have a wonderful display garden and knowledgeable staff.
Swiss Rose Nursery and Roworths also. It's worth visiting and seeing how the established plants look in a garden setting.
'Sunlit' is an excellent rose that tolerates a semi-shaded position well. It's one of Alister Clark's Australian bred roses, blooms 12 months of the year in Perth, has beautiful healthy evergreen foliage and hardly any prickles. The bloom colour is an apricot blend. You should be able to get this from Melvilles - if not immediately, then in October.
If you have the space, you may be interested in Tea or China roses which are pretty bullet-proof in Perth and many of them grow happily in a semi-shaded position. I know it's a deviation from your request for HTs and floribundas, but Mlle Cecile Brunner, Perle d'Or and Mme Jules Thibaud are sensational smaller roses - healthy, tough, beautiful and so floriferous in our climate.
Discussion id : 12-361
most recent 25 MAY 06 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 MAY 06
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 24 MAY 06 by Rupert, Kim L.

You don't say where you live, but here in Southern California, Ballerina is a large climber. I've seen it go 25' into a pine tree! In one season, it went to the roof of a single story house. Most of the Hybrid Musk roses you'll find on Help Me Find could do well for your use. Just check the heights to see what will fit your need.

You may want to rethink the idea of Mermaid for you Zone 7b garden. Help Me Find reports it's hardy in Zones 8 and 9. From experience, Mermaid doesn't tolerate hard freezes, so if you select it and have them with any frequency,  try protecting it by growing it on a wall. If flexibility is important for this planting, forget Mermaid all together. The wood can be used to create tough, hard wood flooring! It's brittle and resists bending, unless the rose has the idea first. It's a great climber, one I wouldn't choose to be without, BUT, I live in Zone 10 with undertones of 9, where it gets 40' to 50' in just a few years. And, those thorns ARE wicked! Huge, curved and very sharp!

William, I don't know if you're aware, but Help Me Find is actively soliciting commercial nurseries to become paying sponsors to advertise here on this site. I notice your employer, Jackson and Perkins, isn't a paying sponsor. Perhaps, you being a J&P employee, could assist them in getting the powers that be at your office to become a paying sponsor to help support this wonderful resource? I know everyone appreciates any and all assistance in answering the questions posted here, but I do find it unfair for you to advertise your employer's products here, free, without them paying for the privilege. If you can, please, contact the appropriate people in your organization and promote Help Me Find to them so they can assist in keeping this site the premier rose resource it has become. Thank you! Kim Rupert

Reply #2 of 3 posted 24 MAY 06 by William

Also, the Mermaid Antique Climber gets about 10'-15' high with a width of 15'.  Its color is cream to light yellow with a deep yellow center and about 5" blooms.  Has a wonderful honey fragrance and is disease resistant, cold hardy and shade tolerant. It's also tolerant of poor soil conditions.  It is considered a vigorous climber/rambler.  You do have to train it to climb up a structure as it is lax and sprawling.  Does not require pruning, light if any.  Thorns are sharp, but there are not many.  Hope this helps.



Reply #3 of 3 posted 25 MAY 06 by Cindy Q

Thank you both for answering.  I am in North Carolina zone 7b.  I love ballerina its beautiful but wonder if it wouldn't be wise to plant it if it wants to be that big.  Would it be a constant battle to keep it at the height I want?  Mermaid sounds like  a good choice as well.  When I do settle on a rose to plant in those 2 spots should I get 1 rose for either side or 2 assuming that I picked either ballerina or mermaid that is...?

Thanks again both

Discussion id : 10-355
most recent 4 APR 06 SHOW ALL
Initial post 19 OCT 05 by Unregistered Guest
And for dry shade and poor soil, healthy and reblooming varieties? 6+ ft high. Thanks.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 23 MAR 06 by Anonymous-797
Darlow's Enigma, Victorian Memory. My 2 Darlow's are very young (< 1 year) , but grew from 1 qt stem to about 2.5', bloomed. Victorian Memory is also less than 1 year old planted from a band, so it did not do much other than grow.
Any Rugosa should fit the bill as well. The previous owner planted about 16 pink Rugosas around, and they have survived drought, neglect, and cold. A little fish emulsion and iron and they just take off. Most of the bushes are shaded by trees for much of the day.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 APR 06 by Rupert, Kim L.
It would be easier to suggest roses for your question of you'd please give more of an idea where you are. "Shade" in Southern California is quite different from "shade" in Buffalo, New York and could very well make suggestions made for one, inappropriate for the other. The reduced heat and sunlight in shade can result in greater mildew possibilities as can water stressed conditions, so a higher resistance to mildew should probably be one of your criteria for selection.
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