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'Variegata di Bologna' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 113-321
most recent 30 SEP 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 30 SEP 18 by Andrew from Dolton
This rose is totally appalling for blackspot. I grow it as a climber supported on wires that way it has a better air movement and hopefully a little less of this disease as it chases the new healthy leaves up the stem. Other roses near by that wouldn't necessarily have gotten it have the disease especially on their leaves closest to this rose. I am going to move it further away into the wilder parts of the garden. Here its only neighbour will be 'poylantha 'Grandiflora'. However, despite being such a leper it has made some really good growth with shoots reaching almost 4M high. The flowers are so incredible it is worth any amount of ugly unhealthiness.
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Discussion id : 95-767
most recent 31 DEC 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 7 NOV 16 by Patricia Routley
In 1971 Norman Young hypothesized that ‘Variegata di Bologna’ was a sport of ‘Victor Emmanuel’ which was long popular in Italy. This guess was often repeated in the literature.
HelpMeFind member Ca Berta found the important 1909 reference which gave ‘Variegata di Bologna’s pollen parent as ‘Pride of Reigate. I am wondering if the rose on the left of this photo is not ‘Victor Emmanuel’, but either ‘Comtesse d’Oxford or its sport ‘Pride of Reigate’. Does David Ruston’s planting records book give the provenance of the rose on the left.

We have a chronological descendancy of
1859 Victor Verdier
1869 Comtesse d’Oxford HP. (seedling of Victor Verdier)
1880s Pride of Reigate (sport of Comtesse d’Oxford)
1909 Variegata di Bologna (seedling x Pride of Reigate)
1980 Purpurea di Bologna (sport of Variegata di Bologna. Or a reversion back to Pride of Reigate or Comtesse d’Oxford?)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 31 DEC 17 by Cà Berta
I do not know if it may help .. in the 1908 catalogue of Gaetano Bonfiglioli e figlio are listed both Comtesse of Oxford and Pride of Reigate but not Victor Emmanuel. Mr. Lodi, thus, had surely avaiilable Pride of Reigate for his hybridizations .. no prove he had Victor Emmanuel at hand.
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Discussion id : 105-284
most recent 3 SEP 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 SEP 17 by Andrew from Dolton
USDA zone 3b through 6a.
I think the hardness rating for this rose is incorrect.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 3 SEP 17 by jedmar
Definitely! Corrected to 5b to 9b. Thank you for the heads up!
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Discussion id : 89-123
most recent 12 NOV 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 9 NOV 15 by Cà Berta
I am glad to inform the many fans of this rose that, after many years of research, the mistery of Variegata di Bologna is finally solved. I found the 1909 -1910 catalogue of Stabilimento Gaetano Bonfiglioli & Figlio where the rose was presented as “NOVITA DEL 1909” of the nursery. The lineage is reported (unknown varietà di moscata x Pride of Reigate) and so this rose is not a sport. Its tendency to reverte is certainly due to the fact that one of the parent (Pride of Reigate) is a sport of Comtesse d’Oxford. I wish to thank Biblioteca Internazionale La Vigna, Vicenza, Italy www.lavigna.it/it/, owner of the Catalogue, for the great help.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 NOV 15 by Patricia Routley
Wonderful Bruna. That 1909 reference has solved a long standing puzzle.
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