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Cà Berta
most recent 2 AUG HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 AUG by Cà Berta
Embriaco's Birichina is not listed among te roses bred by Embriaco
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 AUG by jedmar
Birichina is listed, but you will find it as EMB1277, as that was the first mention of it. Try the listing with all synonyms.
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most recent 8 JAN 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 JAN 23 by Cà Berta
Rose Listing Omission

E0132107

By Quinto Mansuino

E0132107

25/08/1967

Título
(ES) VARIEDAD DE ROSAL DE LA RAZA MANSUINIANA.
Resumen
(ES) Variedad de rosal de la raza Mansuiniana con la siguiente combinación de características morfológicas y fisiológicas: Planta de altura mediana, matosa, con vegetación un poco esparcida, vigorosa, bien revestida por hojas de tamaño mediano, lanceoladas, alargadas, de color cargado, escapos florales numerosos, erguidos, rígidos, derechos o poco sinuosos, frecuentemente angulados en los nudos, con pocos agujones o casi inermes en su parte superior; flores de pequeños hasta de medio tamaño, con diferentes tonalidades de color entre una flor y otra desde el rosa casi blanco lavado de amarillo de ambra con tonalidades de rosa de concha, de rosa claro y de rosa de Venecia, en ciertas flores, hasta el rosa francesa y rosa de Venecia esfumados de rosa Oriente en la parte exterior de los pétalos, en otras flores; efecto de color decorativo de las flores muy delicado, apto para todos los trabajos con flores. Botón floral abierto en forma de urna, derramado hacia el alto, muy elegante; flores resistentes a los transportes y de larga duración después de cortadas; planta rústica en el cultivo industrial y resistente a las enfermedades, muy refloreciente en todas las temporadas, apta para la producción de flores cortadas y de plantas ornamentales.


Title
(ES) VARIETY OF ROSE OF THE MANSUINIAN RACE.
Resume
(ES) Variety of roses of the Mansuiniana race with the following combination of morphological and physiological characteristics: Plant of medium height, bushy, with somewhat sparse, vigorous vegetation, well covered by medium-sized, lanceolate, elongated leaves, of heavy color , floral scapes numerous, erect, rigid, straight or slightly sinuous, frequently angled at the nodes, with few needles or almost unarmed on the upper part; small to medium-sized flowers, with different shades of color between one flower and another, from almost white pink washed with amber yellow with shades of shell rose, light pink and Venice rose, in certain flowers, to French rose and Venetian rose shaded with oriental rose on the outer part of the petals, on other flowers; decorative color effect of the flowers very delicate, suitable for all work with flowers. Open flower bud in the shape of an urn, spilling towards the top, very elegant; flowers resistant to transport and long lasting after cut; Rustic plant in industrial cultivation and resistant to diseases, very reflowering in all seasons, suitable for the production of cut flowers and ornamental plants.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 8 JAN 23 by jedmar
Listed as MAN 132107, based on the patent application number. Please check.
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most recent 6 JAN 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 JAN 23 by Cà Berta
Rose Listing Omission

ES0132192

By Quinto Mansuino
31/08/1967

Título
(ES) VARIEDAD DE ROSAL APTA PARA EL CULTIVO INDUSTRIAL.
Resumen
(ES) Variedad de rosal apta para el cultivo industrial para la producción de flores cortadas y de plantas de ornamento para parques y jardines, caracterizada por la siguiente combinación de características morfológicas y fisiológicas planta de altura media, con vegetación robusta y vigorosa de crecimiento rápido, muy productiva en el cultivo industrial para las flores cortadas, con ramas primarias medianamente numerosas, escapos florales medianamente numerosos, delgados, rígidos, derechos o poco sinuosos, revestidos de hojas desde medianas hasta grandes de color y forma harmonizadas con las de las flores y escapos florales de tamaño mas reducido con respecto a las rosas híbridas de té ya cultivadas industrialmente, pero conservando la armonía de sus proporciones. Flores de color blanco puro, con tonalidades de verde de Chartreuse en el centro de la corola, de tamaño mediano o pequeño en forma de copa chata y orillas externas medianamente enrolladas y formando puntas medianamente agudas en el contorno de la corola. Flores resistentes a las intemperies, a los transportes de larga duración después de cortadas, aptas para la exportación. Planta apta para el cultivo industrial para la producción de flores cortadas y de plantas para la ornamentación de parques y jardines.

Title
(ES) VARIETY OF ROSES SUITABLE FOR INDUSTRIAL GROWING.
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(ES) Variety of rose suitable for industrial cultivation for the production of cut flowers and ornamental plants for parks and gardens, characterized by the following combination of morphological and physiological characteristics plant of medium height, with robust and vigorous fast-growing vegetation , very productive in industrial cultivation for cut flowers, with moderately numerous primary branches, moderately numerous floral scapes, thin, rigid, straight or not very sinuous, covered with leaves that are medium to large in color and shape in harmony with those of the flowers and smaller floral scapes compared to the hybrid tea roses already cultivated industrially, but preserving the harmony of their proportions. Flowers of pure white color, with shades of Chartreuse green in the center of the corolla, of medium or small size in the shape of a flat cup and external borders moderately rolled and forming moderately sharp points on the contour of the corolla. Flowers resistant to bad weather, long-term transport after cut, suitable for export. Plant suitable for industrial cultivation for the production of cut flowers and plants for the ornamentation of parks and gardens.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 6 JAN 23 by jedmar
Could some of these seedlings possibly be hybrids for which were introduced in 1965 and for which there are Italian patents? Are the texts of the Italian patents available online? If so, a comparison of the descriptions with the later Spanish applications would be interesting.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 JAN 23 by Cà Berta
In Italy a registry of a new variety for roses did not exist up to 1966 and a sort of registry was made by Stazione sperimentale di Sanremo (I add a photo to show you how!). From 1966 Mansuino registered some of these roses but the documents are not online.
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most recent 6 JAN 23 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 6 JAN 23 by Cà Berta
ES132443 apparently Generosa, later patented in Spain
11 /9/1967

Título
(ES) VARIEDAD DE ROSAL DE TAMAÑO MEDIANO DE LA RAZA MANSUINIANA.
Resumen
(ES) Variedad de rosal de tamaño mediano de la raza Mansuiniana, caracterizada por la siguiente combinación única de caracteres morfológicos y fisiológicos fundamentales: Forma de la planta, en los escapos florales parecida a la de los rosales híbridos de Thé, pero de tamaño más reducido, aunque armoniosa: y elegante; porte vegetativo un poco esparcido, de crecimiento rápido y de reflorecencia abundante en todas las temporadas del año; Planta apta para el cultivo industrial en el campo y bajo invernadero, con ramas principales numerosas y erguidas, salientes desde la base de la planta; Escapos florales numerosos, delgados, leñosos, rígidos, erguidos y elegantes, poco espinosos o completamente inermes; Pedúnculo floral delgado y rígido, erguido; Hojas ligeras, pequeñas, que revisten la planta y los escapos florales de manera armoniosa y decorativa; Flores solitarias, terminales sobre los escapos, desde pequeñas hasta medianas, de color entre el urna al comienzo de la abertura y enseguida en formade copa chata; Perfume delicado y resistentes Planta y flores resistentes a las intemperies Planta muy resistente a las enfermedades, rústica en el cultivo: Flores resistentes a los transportes, aptas para la exportación, de muy larga duración después de cortadas.
Progenie – Hibrido de raza mansuiniana “n. 103 C.A.” x Hibrido de rosa mansuiniana “n. 1896”

Title
(ES) VARIETY OF MEDIUM-SIZED ROSE OF THE MANSUINIANA RACE.
Resume
(ES) Variety of medium-sized roses of the Mansuiniana race, characterized by the following unique combination of fundamental morphological and physiological characters: Shape of the plant, in the floral scapes, similar to that of Thé's hybrid roses, but reduced in size, although harmonious: and elegant; slightly sparse vegetative habit, rapid growth and abundant reflowering in all seasons of the year; Plant suitable for industrial cultivation in the field and under greenhouse, with numerous and erect main branches, projecting from the base of the plant; Flower scapes numerous, thin, woody, rigid, erect and elegant, not very prickly or completely unarmed; Flower stalk thin and rigid, erect; Light, small leaves that cover the plant and the floral scapes in a harmonious and decorative way; Solitary flowers, terminal on the scapes, from small to medium, of color between the urn at the beginning of the opening and immediately in the shape of a flat cup; Delicate perfume and resistant Plant and flowers resistant to bad weather Plant very resistant to diseases, rustic in cultivation: Flowers resistant to transport, suitable for export, very long lasting after cut.
Progeny - Hybrid of Mansuiniana race “n . 103 A.C.” x Hybrid of mansuiniana rose “n. 1896”
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