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Initial post today by Bones
I am in Zone 9b and grow Savannah in a pot because of nematodes in my soil. I am wondering whether I should try to prune it into a traditional vase shape or let it get bushy.
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Initial post 9 AUG 19 by Marlorena
This is one magnificent rose.. I can't relate to negative comments about it elsewhere... I've tried about 60 Austins down the years and this is in my top 5... prolific continuous bloom is correct, the scent is nearly always there, very strong if you like this type of scent... and never outgrows its welcome... about 5 and half foot by 4 foot.. supported by obelisk... a most graceful, floriferous rose that's a joy to see from any window or close up... also most photogenic.. the flowers open up eventually to reveal the stamens much loved by bees and hoverflies...

Health is pretty good... just a touch of blackspot here and there.. nothing else... what more can I say?...
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 9 AUG 19 by Nastarana
Maybe it needs a temperate to cool climate. For me, in CA, it grew like Jack's beanstalk in every possible direction except underground. In a climate where, if I wanted a rampant bush or climber, I could have a Noisette, 'Sceptered Isle' didn't do much for me and did not flower enough to justify the space it took.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 9 AUG 19 by Marlorena
I'm sorry it doesn't do well in your location... these days I like to choose what I feel sure will suit my garden...
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 10 AUG 19 by Nastarana
I can well believe that a smaller bush with more profuse flowering than I saw, SI would be lovely.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted today by Bones
Should I let Scepter'd Isle grow like a shrub with multiple branches growing up in the middle of the bush or prune it into the classic vase shape? I'm in Florida and grow it in a large pot because of nematodes.
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Initial post 14 FEB 20 by Philip_ATX
This Rose is nearly identical in appearance to the rose in the Piano series sold in the cut-flower trade as "Bridal Piano". I am wondering if they might be the same Rose? Both are described as sports of the red rose Piano.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted today by Michael Garhart
Bridal Piano is on their official site, but does not seem to have a code name, and does not have a photo on there. I mean, it could be, but I couldn't verify either way.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted today by jedmar
'Charming Piano' and 'Bridal Piano' are similar in appearance of the blooms, but while Tantau says the former has a stem length of 60-80 cm, Alexandra Farms states 40-50 cm for the latter. We will list them separately for the time being until more information comes up. 'Bridal Piano' is also not listed on Tantau's official list of trademarks.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted today by Philip_ATX
Would it be appropriate for me to note the potential overlap at the other site? They do not list a "Charming Piano" and it is easy to imagine a marketing decision for such.
Thanks.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted today by jedmar
Sure, the more persons look for the answers, the better!
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Initial post today by Viviane SCHUSSELE
'Chios Rose" Avramis

Category Old Roses Old Roses with repeat flowering Color Deep Pink Perfume Very strong fragrance (5/5) Height 1,50 m Height x Large 1,50 x 0,80 m Flower diameter 8 - 10 cm Uses for desserts and rose water, for hedges or borders , alone, in groups Planting place Sunny Flowering Repeating (from Spring to Winter)
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by jedmar
We are trying to find out more about Avramis and the chios Rose, before adding it. chios Rose seems to be a found rose and could be an existing OGR. Regarding Avramis we are looking for the family behind the nursery- an Eva Avrami (without s) is listed as co-owner. Maybe our Greek members can tell us more?
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