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'MACoranlem' rose Reviews & Comments
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Available from - High Country Roses
highcountryroses.com
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15 MAY 13 by
 goncmg
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Just got this one as a sub from Heirloom...............actually hate striped roses and put it on my alt list as a dare and wow, joke on me...............so, what am I to expect? How sickly is this one in humid 6a Columbus? Is it really striped?Does it set hips? Is there any reason I should keep it and not "gift" it away?
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I don't have this rose, but it seems, that yes it is striped. It did not have consistently good reports in New Zealand and I suspect that it may not be healthy in your humid climate. According to the Australian patent, the hips are medium to large and pitcher shaped. There are a few more references to be read now.
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I consider O & L to be a gimick. I have never seen one that was not a puny, unattractive specimen. You might want to try a rigorous fertilizer regimen, to bring out its' best growth and color.
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#3 of 15 posted
16 MAY 13 by
goncmg
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Thanks Nastarana and Patricia! Yeah, I figured this one would be a "dud" and I'll see what I can do with it.....why I listed it as a sub when I don't even LIKE striped roses is beyond me, guess I wanted to tempt the fates. Maybe it will surprise me, I will put it on the same "medicine" schedule that Soleil d'Or and Golden Showers get: a little spritz of Rose Pride each and everyday.....
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I grow it in Tasmania, Australia, with no care at all... it's a tall strong plant.
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It was very good in my sister's garden in the Adelaide Hills - zone 9b, Mediterranean climate with dry summers. Nice effect with the burgundy leaves.
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It was a dawg in my San Diego garden. It was the first rose I ever shovel pruned ... and I still have no regret. I do like and still grow other McGredy roses, but this one .... not for me.
Smiles,
Lyn
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#7 of 15 posted
1 MAY 16 by
LaurelZ
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Can you be more specific about why you did not like it? I saw it in a nursery, and I am posting. It looks ok, its not flopping. The foliage, although I did not get a shot looked very attractive and shiny. It appears that Weeks has reclassified Oranges and Lemons as a shurb rose.
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Sorry to be so late responding ...
In my experience, roses are regional. 'Oranges and Lemons' just did not like my San Diego climate. That does not necessarily mean that it will not do well for you.
When I moved to the mountains of northern California, roses that did exceptionally well for me in San Diego did not like the climate up here. Often the success of a rose depends upon where you are gardening.
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#10 of 15 posted
4 JUL 16 by
LaurelZ
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thank you, but it was sold out. It has nice looking leaves.
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'shovel pruned' ?
hilarious
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It's not a bad rose. Blooms well. Color is nice. Survives decently. Average health.
The bad part is the plant architecture, which does not fit into any practical idea. It is not quite a pillar. It is not a shrub or floribunda. It's very floppy. It can be grown decently inside a pillar structure, where it can sort of flop over the top.
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I'll add to this...I grew this one when it first came out. In my experience it was a very disease resistant stripe, very bright. However, the blooms were small, you couldn't really cut them as they aren't really on long enough stems, and it throws these giant arching canes. I don't know if it would grow better as a sorta-climber or what. It was just odd and awkward, not necessarily bad.
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The first time I saw a picture of this rose I fell in love and had to have it. I adore striped roses. Floribundas don't grow so well in my garden so I expected to have to put up with extreme blackspot for a couple of years then remove a half dead plant. But not so. It is tolerably healthy with me and flowers on and off all season, never putting on a big display but a continual one. The dark coloured foliage against the flowers adds another dimension to its appeal. However my only criticism is that when out of flower it is a rather unattractive leggy shrub, so I grow plenty of other plants around it and ignore it to the best of my ability when not in bloom. Never growing very high, by the end of the season it just about manages to get 1 metre tall.
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#13 of 15 posted
8 APR 18 by
LaurelZ
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I was able to buy one and I find it to rapid growing, but not leggy. The flowers are small, but don't sag. I suggest maybe its not getting enough sun light or the soil is poor. I also suggest pruning overly long canes to encourage more wide growth.
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It hates the cool wet summers here, if the flowers weren't so striking I wouldn't grow it.
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This is the name under which McGredy's Oranges 'n' Lemons is sometimes sold in France.
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Thank you Charles. We’ve merged the files.
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I have seen this rose growing in Greeley, Co where it is happy and healthy probably due to low BS pressure. Having survived many winters there, its zone should probably be adjusted downward to Z5b. High Country Roses in Co. also carries this one and I believe they only sell roses that will survive in their zone.
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