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Initial post 7 MAR 19 by HubertG
I found this article by A. Williams in the Brisbane newspaper 'The Queenslander' of 30 Jan 1892 regarding Williams' methods of raising from seed to be interesting. He stressed sowing the seed as soon as it was ripe. Obviously, in warm Brisbane, there was no winter stratification.

"Hints for Rose Growing by A. Williams Green Hill Nursery
Raising New Varieties from Seeds.
Nearly all the varieties produce seed freely in this climate, especially the tea class, and although this method is somewhat uncertain as to results it is nevertheless a very pleasant and interesting occupation. The chief reason why it is not more largely undertaken by some of our amateur florists is because it is looked upon as a tedious undertaking, which is far from being the case. I have a large collection I have raised from seed, many of which are of equal merit with catalogued varieties. The seed should be allowed to ripen thoroughly before gathering, and when taken off the hips should be crushed with some light implement, such as a wooden mallet. Then pick out the seeds and sow in shallow boxes, pots, or pans, as the case may be. Use light soil with a fair proportion of fine sand. Cover the seeds about 1in. deep, and to hasten germination place in a well-sheltered and shady spot where a uniform temperature and moisture may be maintained. In five or six weeks many of the young seedlings will have made their appearance (provided the seed was sown as soon as gathered), and when sufficiently strong they should be picked out, care being taken not to disturb the roots nor any seeds that may be yet dormant. Pot into other pans or No. 60 flower pots and keep well sheltered until sufficiently strong to remove to the open ground. Many will bloom ere they are six months old, but little more than the colour can be distinguished yet, and they will require from nine to twelve months before their virtues can be fully decided upon. Cross-breeding, or as it is commonly called hybridising, of the different classes is effected by applying the pollen of one variety to the stigma of the other; when they are grown in close proximity this is often done accidentally by insects."
Reply #1 of 4 posted 12 days ago by Dockairne
Thank you HubertG, this is fascinating information!
Reply #2 of 4 posted 12 days ago by HubertG
Yes, I thought it was fascinating too. Funny that you should comment on it now because only a couple of days ago this article re-entered my mind because I had an early ripe hip of a Tea cross and wasn't sure whether to wait till the cooler weather to plant, or do it now. I think I should plant the seeds without waiting.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 10 days ago by Dockairne
let us know how they come along!
Reply #4 of 4 posted 10 days ago by HubertG
Sure, will do. It was 'General Schablikine' x "Muriel Linton", so not a pure Tea cross, but could be interesting regarding perfume and winter flowering.
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Initial post 4 APR 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
This one has everything going for it. If you’re one for a good sturdy hybrid tea, with a powerhouse of fragrance that will TKO you when you walk in the door, this is your ticket. Heaven. From 1-10, I would rate the fragrance a 14. Though it’s so intense, you’ll either love or hate it. The fragrance is like a big vat of fresh sliced Pink Grapefruits, like 100 of them. It is Dee-Lish like you want to eat it, but the number of names given to this sweetheart of a rose is nothing short of ridiculous! That’s the one thing ONLY I can say bad about this rose. Its a HT lover’s dream. Fights off BS and mildew like an angry truckdriver. Robust and vigorous upright grower, it’s fragrance defies the need to put it in the back. This one BEGS to be front and center. Even by the front door so you and your guests can enjoy and appreciate it’s unforgettable fragrance. The bees never stop trying to pollinate it. I’ve seen them even landing on the shattered petals on the ground.

I acquired it some time ago as Sweet Parfum de Provence. Imagine how gobsmacked I was to discover that it was Dee-Lish, interchangeably. Shame on whomever didn’t stick with one or two names at best. This isn’t a rose that deserves such ambiguity.
Reply #1 of 4 posted 16 JUN 19 by kgs
We just had a sudden heat wave with temps up to 100 degrees -- unusual for June in this area (Sonoma County, CA) and really hard on a lot of plants, roses and otherwise, particularly after our long, wet winter and delayed spring. Roses with delicate petals such as Gentle Hermione had completely frizzled blooms, and most of the plants had smaller buds afterwards, as if they were recovering from shock. Dee-lish was a notable exception: it didn't have a problem during or after the heat wave. Agree on its strong fragrance (which I like) and disease resistance. Due to the strange weather this spring some roses that normally shake off disease are experiencing mildew or BS, but not Dee-lish. Its blooms also last and last on the bush and as a cut flower.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 16 JUN 19 by HubertG
I have decided to get this rose next season after reading these comments. Thank you both for your reviews.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 6 JUL 19 by Planetrj (zone 11b/H2 pH 5.8)
HubertG you're very welcome. It certainly is a fantastic performer. Make sure you give it plenty of room, as it's very upright and seems to have settled at a fantastic 5-6 feet tall, where all the flowers are in perfect nose and eye range for being next to a walkway or where a medium shrub is needed.
It likes to throw random single flowers between flushes, which is really a nice attribute so there's not really any time it's completely barren. I believe it would appreciate a place where it gets lots of water on the roots. It does very well in heat, but can't tolerate drying out, and in fact does just fine in a little wet soil.
But when you sniff it the first time, you realize you won't want to be without it. Ever.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 9 JAN by HubertG
Eighteen months after my previous comment I finally got around to buying this rose. I missed out last season and saw it by chance in a local nursery where it's sold as 'Forget Me Not'. Its first flower is deliciously scented. Yes, I can definitely smell the pink grapefruit component but there are other more subtle layers in addition to this. I'll be interested to see how it develops over time. The colour reminds me of 'Lorraine Lee'. Planning on growing it in a good size pot for now as the label recommends this and there is a great photo here of a potted specimen. Already very glad I got this, thanks to your reviews.
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Initial post 3 JAN by Cambridgelad
Introduced into the USA by Dingee and Conard in 1886.

Ref. Front cover of the catalogue. See photo.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 3 JAN by HubertG
The photo shows the white Tea-China 'Mme. Jean Sisley' (as marked in the catalogue) from Dubreuil 1885, not Bennett's pink HT 'Jean Sisley'.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 3 JAN by Patricia Routley
Thanks Cambridgelad and Hubertg. I’ve reassigned the photo out of
Jean Sisley (hybrid tea, Bennett, 1879). and into
Mme. Jean Sisley (china, Dubreuil 1885)
Reply #3 of 3 posted 4 JAN by HubertG
Thanks Patricia.
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Initial post 3 JAN by HubertG
This is 'Mme Jean Sisley' from Dubreuil, not 'Jean Sisley' from Bennett.
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